[slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3
Thomas W. Humphrey
TWHumphrey@fuse.net
Sat, 5 Aug 2000 22:49:28 -0000
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RE: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3I don't know how Colby does the =
CDJ ID's but I can't imagine that it matters for MP3's since as I =
understand it the point of the ID is to have a quick reference to =
identify a disk if it moves from one slot in the changer to another, =
which of course is irrelevant for an MP3. I would suggest you log in a =
few MP3's the old fashioned way and see what ID's they get, if any. You =
probably can leave the field blank.
Does your existing software already search for existing information in =
the database using album and track names from the MP3 file name, and =
copy over other data fields?
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Zeke Koch=20
To: Thomas W. Humphrey ; Francisco Antonio de Toledo ; =
Michael@laserle.fi ; caeschlimann@com4u.ch=20
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com=20
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 7:41 AM
Subject: RE: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3
I already have a system that does almost all of this. I happen to be =
persisting my information in a different DB (Exchange 2000), but I could =
retrofit it to use Colby's Access MDB's if you want. Does anyone know =
how Colby generates the new cdjids? Does it matter at all for MP3s or =
should I just generate a random (unique) number...
-=3DZeke=20
-----Original Message-----=20
From: Thomas W. Humphrey [mailto:TWHumphrey@fuse.net]=20
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 4:27 PM=20
To: Francisco Antonio de Toledo; Michael@laserle.fi; =
caeschlimann@com4u.ch=20
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com=20
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3=20
This is a long term pet project for me, so let me put in my 2 cents.=20
First, the CD-ROM player is definitely the way to make the MP3's. It =
is way=20
faster and way easier than trying to play the CD audio into the sound =
card,=20
capture it with a WAV recorder, then convert to MP3. Sure, you have =
to pull=20
the disks out of the changer, but you can do three each day or =
whatever is=20
comfortable, and soon enough you will have MP3's for your entire =
collection.=20
The programming effort to make MP3 ripping automatic using CDJ and the =
changers, is truly overwhelming.=20
An added benefit is that if you use Real Jukebox or another widely =
used MP3=20
ripper, you will have built-in support for moving MP3's to portable =
players.=20
You can also migrate your MP3 database from one computer to another or =
use=20
MP3's over a networked configuration if you have one, with Real =
Jukebox=20
support..=20
Real Jukebox is not as good an environment as CDJ for actually playing =
music. CDJ's graphics, lyrics, music ratings, notes, etc. put Real =
Jukebox=20
to shame, IMHO. However, I do like the idea of usnig MP3's from the=20
computer rather than CD's in a changer to play music. Ultimately, I =
want to=20
use CDJ with MP3's and get rid of the changers. Then I can use the =
CD's for=20
playback in the car where I still have a CD player, or in my bedroom =
where I=20
have a standalone CD player.=20
To move from CD's to MP3's, requires setting up "audio file albums" =
for the=20
MP3's made from each CD, and then moving over the graphic, lyric, and =
other=20
information from the existing CD library entry to the new audio file =
album=20
and audio file entries for the MP3's. Manually, this would be a big =
job.=20
However, I see no reason it can't be automated.=20
If you use Real Jukebox to do the ripping and have it connect to CDDB =
to get=20
disk and track names, Real Jukebox will save the MP3 files under file =
names=20
includnig the disk and track names. This means you could then write a =
small=20
VB application to access the CDJ library database and the directory =
with the=20
MP3's, and for every MP3 file on disk that is not already identified =
in the=20
CDJ database, create an audio file album and audio file entry. Then =
use the=20
album and track titles found in the MP3 file name, to find the =
existing CDJ=20
library entry for the CD and track. Then the graphic and other =
information=20
for the CD and track could be copied over to the MP3 audio file entry =
and=20
audio file album entry. The CD entry can be left in the library, or=20
deleted, depending upon whether the CD would be used again in =
connection=20
with CDJ or just shelved for use elsewhere.=20
This process could quickly register all of the MP3's into CDJ. =
Basically,=20
you would rip a few (or lots of) CD's to build up your RealJukebox =
database,=20
and when you feel like adding all the new MP3's to CDJ, just run one =
program=20
and voila!, the ripped MP3's are now in CDJ just like the CD's were.=20
Once all of your disks are out of the changer, you can sell off your=20
changers and relieve some space in your rack system for something =
else!=20
If anyone likes this idea, and/or wants to participate in its=20
implementation, let me know.=20
_______________________________________________=20
slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com=20
http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't know how Colby does the CDJ =
ID's but I=20
can't imagine that it matters for MP3's since as I understand it the =
point of=20
the ID is to have a quick reference to identify a disk if it moves from =
one slot=20
in the changer to another, which of course is irrelevant for an =
MP3. I=20
would suggest you log in a few MP3's the old fashioned way and see what =
ID's=20
they get, if any. You probably can leave the field =
blank.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does your existing software already =
search for=20
existing information in the database using album and track names from =
the MP3=20
file name, and copy over other data fields?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:zeke@Exchange.Microsoft.com"=20
title=3Dzeke@Exchange.Microsoft.com>Zeke Koch</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:TWHumphrey@alum.mit.edu" =
title=3DTWHumphrey@alum.mit.edu>Thomas W.=20
Humphrey</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:frtoledo@uol.com.br"=20
title=3Dfrtoledo@uol.com.br>Francisco Antonio de Toledo</A> ; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:Michael@laserle.fi"=20
title=3DMichael@laserle.fi>Michael@laserle.fi</A> ; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:caeschlimann@com4u.ch"=20
title=3Dcaeschlimann@com4u.ch>caeschlimann@com4u.ch</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:slinkelist@nirvis.com"=20
title=3Dslinkelist@nirvis.com>slinkelist@nirvis.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 05, 2000 =
7:41=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [slinkelist] =
converting cd's=20
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<P><FONT size=3D2>I already have a system that does almost all of =
this. I happen=20
to be persisting my information in a different DB (Exchange 2000), but =
I could=20
retrofit it to use Colby's Access MDB's if you want. Does anyone =
know=20
how Colby generates the new cdjids? Does it matter at all for =
MP3s or=20
should I just generate a random (unique) number...</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>-=3DZeke</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From:=20
Thomas W. Humphrey [<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:TWHumphrey@fuse.net">mailto:TWHumphrey@fuse.net</A>]</FONT=
>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 4:27 PM</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>To: Francisco Antonio de Toledo; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:Michael@laserle.fi">Michael@laserle.fi</A>; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:caeschlimann@com4u.ch">caeschlimann@com4u.ch</A></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>Cc: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:slinkelist@nirvis.com">slinkelist@nirvis.com</A></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>Subject: Re: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>This is a long term pet project for me, so let me =
put in my 2=20
cents.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>First, the CD-ROM player is definitely the way to =
make the=20
MP3's. It is way</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>faster and way easier =
than=20
trying to play the CD audio into the sound card,</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>capture it with a WAV recorder, then convert to MP3. =
Sure, you=20
have to pull</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>the disks out of the changer, =
but you can=20
do three each day or whatever is</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>comfortable, and soon=20
enough you will have MP3's for your entire collection.</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>The programming effort to make MP3 ripping automatic using =
CDJ and=20
the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>changers, is truly overwhelming.</FONT> =
</P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>An added benefit is that if you use Real Jukebox or =
another=20
widely used MP3</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>ripper, you will have =
built-in support=20
for moving MP3's to portable players.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>You =
can also=20
migrate your MP3 database from one computer to another or use</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>MP3's over a networked configuration if you have one, with =
Real=20
Jukebox</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>support..</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Real Jukebox is not as good an environment as CDJ =
for actually=20
playing</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>music. CDJ's graphics, lyrics, =
music=20
ratings, notes, etc. put Real Jukebox</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>to =
shame,=20
IMHO. However, I do like the idea of usnig MP3's from the</FONT> =
<BR><FONT size=3D2>computer rather than CD's in a changer to play =
music. =20
Ultimately, I want to</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>use CDJ with MP3's and =
get rid=20
of the changers. Then I can use the CD's for</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>playback in the car where I still have a CD player, or in my =
bedroom=20
where I</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>have a standalone CD player.</FONT> =
</P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>To move from CD's to MP3's, requires setting up =
"audio file=20
albums" for the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>MP3's made from each CD, and =
then=20
moving over the graphic, lyric, and other</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>information=20
from the existing CD library entry to the new audio file album</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>and audio file entries for the MP3's. =
Manually, this=20
would be a big job.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>However, I see no reason =
it can't=20
be automated.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>If you use Real Jukebox to do the ripping and have =
it connect=20
to CDDB to get</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>disk and track names, Real =
Jukebox will=20
save the MP3 files under file names</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>includnig the disk=20
and track names. This means you could then write a small</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>VB application to access the CDJ library database =
and the=20
directory with the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>MP3's, and for every MP3 =
file on=20
disk that is not already identified in the</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>CDJ=20
database, create an audio file album and audio file entry. Then =
use=20
the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>album and track titles found in the MP3 =
file name,=20
to find the existing CDJ</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>library entry for =
the CD and=20
track. Then the graphic and other information</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>for the CD and track could be copied over to the MP3 audio =
file entry=20
and</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>audio file album entry. The CD =
entry can be=20
left in the library, or</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>deleted, depending =
upon=20
whether the CD would be used again in connection</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>with=20
CDJ or just shelved for use elsewhere.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>This process could quickly register all of the MP3's =
into=20
CDJ. Basically,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>you would rip a few =
(or lots of)=20
CD's to build up your RealJukebox database,</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>and when=20
you feel like adding all the new MP3's to CDJ, just run one =
program</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>and voila!, the ripped MP3's are now in CDJ just =
like the=20
CD's were.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Once all of your disks are out of the changer, you =
can sell=20
off your</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>changers and relieve some space in =
your rack=20
system for something else!</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>If anyone likes this idea, and/or wants to =
participate in=20
its</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>implementation, let me know.</FONT> =
</P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT =
size=3D2>_______________________________________________</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>slinkelist maillist - =20
slinkelist@nirvis.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist">http://www.nir=
vis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist</A></FONT>=20
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