[slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems

[Colby Boles]

I'm actually working on it right now. Our database is already structured to
support multiple IDs (CDJID,CDDBID,etc). I'm coming up with a new non-CDDB
CDJID which has mathematical basis that makes it much more unique. Of
course, it still won't address having two of the exact same discs...

Colby

-----Original Message-----
From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
Behalf Of George Tang
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:16 AM
To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: RE: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems


Colby and David,

Since CDJ already knows when there are more than one discs with the same
number of tracks and total time, instead of displaying an error, this is
where the track length check should go.  That way, CDJ doesn't have to do
the track length check everytime, only when it is necessary.

my 2 cents
George

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Kehoe [mailto:pkehoe@mediaone.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:13 AM
To: George Tang; slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems


George,

Thank you very much for clearing this up.

Colby and/or David, is this on your "to do list" or do I need to find
another
work around?  The reason that I'm concerned is that I've only loaded 1/3 of
my
CDs in to changers (450 discs so far) and am concerned about buying more
changers and having more of these problems.

In a previous message, there was mention of using Access to add a Ninth
digit to
the CDJ id for one of discs in the database as a work around.  There was
also
discussion that this wouldn't work.  Opinions?

Patrick

George Tang wrote:

> Yes, CDJ will only look at the number of tracks and the total time on the
> disc.  So there is a possibility of more than one disc to have the same
> information.  CDDB, however, also looks at the length of each track.
Colby
> and David at Nirvis are aware of this limitation.  But I don't know when
> they will fix this.  So far only a handful of disk are having problem.  In
> your case, you'll probably only encounter this once.
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Kehoe [mailto:pkehoe@mediaone.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:09 AM
> To: gtang@gtcons.com; slinkelist@nirvis.com
> Subject: Re: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems
>
> George,
>
> Thanks for the response.  I did find a similar message on the BBS, but the
> confusing part for me is that CDJ and CDDB will return the correct CD
> artist/tracks when only one of the two dics are in the player.  If both
> discs
> are the player, CDJ gets confused.
>
> What I don't understand is why can CDJ using CDDB correctly determine an
> exact
> match for each CD, yet CDJ thinks they are the same?  Is CDJ's unique id
not
> including the same information the CDDB is using?
>
> I'm really reluctant to just burn a copy.  From my point of view, if I
> wanted to
> go through all of that headache, I might as well just RIP my collection to
> MP3.
> I choose CDJ because it would be "simpler".
>
> Thanks
>
> Patrick
>
> "Tang, George" wrote:
>
> > This issue has been addressed before.  Please check the BBS on the
Nirvis
> > web site for solutions.  The easiest and quickest solution is to just
burn
> a
> > copy of one of the two disks.  The copy is slightly different enough for
> CDJ
> > to recognize it as a different disk.
> >
> > George
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
> > Behalf Of Patrick Kehoe
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:42 PM
> > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
> > Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems
> >
> > Strange problem with CDDB look-ups.
> >
> > I have two CDs:
> > 1) Barenaked Ladies - Stunt
> > 2) Cowboy Junkies - Lay it on down
> >
> > Both return the correct disk information when looked up indvidually in
> > CDJ.
> >
> > However when they are both in my two changers (CX250 and CX350) the
> > first disk looked up is correct, but the second takes the identity of
> > the first, and then CDJ complains that it can't have two of the same
> > disks.
> >
> > I think I've tried every combination of deleting the disks and
> > re-searching for them to no avail.  I'm at a loss.
> >
> > Could CDJ be using the same ID for each disk, yet CDDB returns the
> > correct Artist/title information?
> >
> > How do I address this problem?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Patrick
> >
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