From PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com Wed, 31 May 2000 21:16:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 21:16:24 -0400 From: PaulMmn PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] connecting two toslink digital outs from two changers together A digital signal is a lot different from the traditional analog signals we grew up with. Analog signals are like streams of water: You can join them together by just pouring them through the same pipe, much like running 2 garden hoses through a 'Y' connector. That's what analog 'Y' connectors do, electrically speaking. Similarly, you can split them with the same 'Y' connector (although, like a stream of water, the split stream is 1/2 of the original (assuming a 50-50 split)). A digital signal, however, is much different. Information is sent as a stream of bits, assembled into blocks or packets. Each block/packet can be compared to a business letter: it has a date and time stamp; a 'send to' address; a 'sent from' address; a body (which contains the data to be sent); and a signature block (which includes error correcting information in some systems), which ends the message. If you wrote your letters on clear plastic, then stacked them on top of each other, you'd be unable to read either of them, because pieces of characters from 1 letter would blend with characters from the other. That's like trying to run 2 digital signals through a fiber "Y" connector. Bad news. In the real world, a digital audio signal is broken into thousands of packets, which are all necessary (if you don't have error correction) to move your audio from point A to point B. Because these packets are constantly flowing, you can't just join two streams together. You'll have packets from one source landing on top of packets from another source, causing loss of -both- signals (because you've mangled the signal). A computer, or Nirvis' DXS, can read signals from multiple sources and switch them to different outputs. Some systems can multiplex multiple digital data streams together on the same wire or fiber. You 'simply' read the packets from 2 or more inputs, and write them to an output. There are lots of things that have to happen-- you have to read from all the inputs fast enough that you don't miss any incoming packets, and write the data fast enough that all of it gets written. It's enough to say that using a fiber "Y" will -not- let you blend 2 digital signals together! --Paul E Musselman PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com From mcody@mindspring.com Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:20:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:20:59 -0400 From: Mike Cody mcody@mindspring.com Subject: [slinkelist] Does the Philips Pronto link export song info? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01BFCBB3.14A056A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable While looking on the Nirvis website - I found a user submitted file that = says it allows the CDJ database info to be exported into a Philips = Pronto remote. Has anyone used this? I would like to know how it works = - do you get a CDJ like interface and allow you to look up artist, song, = info? Create playlists , etc - thanks ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01BFCBB3.14A056A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
------=_NextPart_000_037D_01BFDC37.649B6200-- From frtoledo@uol.com.br Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:05:56 -0300 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:05:56 -0300 From: Francisco Antonio de Toledo frtoledo@uol.com.br Subject: [slinkelist] Alternating players in CDJ with > 2 players? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BFDC74.8364C680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alternating players in CDJ with > 2 players?Probably it is not a = statistical case. I have 2 players, and even though I have 6 discs in = one and 300 in the other, when I alternate using random or whatever, it = always plays a song from player 1, then from player 2, then 1 again and = so on... Francisco. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Colby Boles=20 To: Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com ; Reeves Little=20 Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 2:48 PM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Alternating players in CDJ with > 2 players? it's probably a statistical and has to do with the fact that most of = your discs are in changer 1. true? =20 colby -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com = [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Reeves Little Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:39 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Alternating players in CDJ with > 2 players? Didn't find anything in the archives on this... When I shuffle a play list then ask it to alternate, it seems that = CDJ always alternates between player 1 and another player. Is there a = way to get it to cycle through more than one player? For my setup, I have 3 jukeboxes and MP3 files (essentially 4 = players). My play order typically looks like this: 1, 2, 1, 3, 1, MP3, 1, 2, .... etc. I end up mainly listening to music on my first changer. Limitation = or configuration error? Cheers, Reeves --=20 Reeves Little -- Freelance Lunatic AIM: Reeves9753 http://www.doe.com -- http://www.little.org ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BFDC74.8364C680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable-----Original Message-----Didn’t find=20 anything in the archives on this...
From: = slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com=20 [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Reeves=20 Little
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:39 AM
To:=20 slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Alternating = players in=20 CDJ with > 2 players?
When I shuffle a play list = then ask=20 it to alternate, it seems that CDJ always alternates between player 1 = and=20 another player. Is there a way to get it to cycle through more = than one=20 player?
For my setup, I have 3 jukeboxes and MP3 files = (essentially 4=20 players). My play order typically looks like this:
1, 2, = 1, 3, 1,=20 MP3, 1, 2, .... etc.
I end up mainly listening to music on my = first=20 changer. Limitation or configuration=20 error?
Cheers,
Reeves
-- =
Reeves=20 Little -- Freelance=20 = Lunatic
&n= bsp; AIM:=20 Reeves9753
http://www.doe.com --=20 http://www.little.org
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BFDC74.8364C680-- From frtoledo@uol.com.br Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:51:30 -0300 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:51:30 -0300 From: Francisco Antonio de Toledo frtoledo@uol.com.br Subject: [slinkelist] Alternating players in CDJ with > 2 players? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BFDC9C.67A2E1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alternating players in CDJ with > 2 players?Understood! You made it so = that a player alternation always takes place between songs, thus = avoiding gaps for swapping discs, and, whenever possible, make an even = distribution of discs... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Colby Boles=20 To: Francisco Antonio de Toledo=20 Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 6:22 PM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Alternating players in CDJ with > 2 players? we are talking about 3 changers here, which is a different situation. = if you had many discs in changers 1 & 2, but few in 3, you would tend to = see 1-2-1-2-1-2.... =20 colby -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com = [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Francisco Antonio de = Toledo Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 2:06 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Alternating players in CDJ with > 2 = players? Probably it is not a statistical case. I have 2 players, and even = though I have 6 discs in one and 300 in the other, when I alternate = using random or whatever, it always plays a song from player 1, then = from player 2, then 1 again and so on... Francisco. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Colby Boles=20 To: Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com ; Reeves Little=20 Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 2:48 PM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Alternating players in CDJ with > 2 = players? it's probably a statistical and has to do with the fact that most = of your discs are in changer 1. true? =20 colby -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com = [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Reeves Little Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:39 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Alternating players in CDJ with > 2 = players? Didn't find anything in the archives on this... When I shuffle a play list then ask it to alternate, it seems = that CDJ always alternates between player 1 and another player. Is = there a way to get it to cycle through more than one player? For my setup, I have 3 jukeboxes and MP3 files (essentially 4 = players). My play order typically looks like this: 1, 2, 1, 3, 1, MP3, 1, 2, .... etc. I end up mainly listening to music on my first changer. = Limitation or configuration error? Cheers, Reeves --=20 Reeves Little -- Freelance Lunatic AIM: Reeves9753 http://www.doe.com -- http://www.little.org ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BFDC9C.67A2E1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable----- Original Message -----From:=20 Colby = Boles=20To: Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com ; Reeves = Little=20Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 = 2:48=20 PMSubject: RE: [slinkelist] = Alternating=20 players in CDJ with > 2 players?it's=20 probably a statistical and has to do with the fact that most of your = discs are=20 in changer 1. true?colby-----Original Message-----Didn’t find = anything in the=20 archives on this...
From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com= A>=20 [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvi= s.com]On=20 Behalf Of Reeves Little
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 = 10:39=20 AM
To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Sub= ject:=20 [slinkelist] Alternating players in CDJ with > 2=20 players?
When I shuffle a play list then ask it to = alternate, it seems that CDJ always alternates between player 1 and = another=20 player. Is there a way to get it to cycle through more than = one=20 player?
For my setup, I have 3 jukeboxes and MP3 files = (essentially 4=20 players). My play order typically looks like this:
1, = 2, 1, 3,=20 1, MP3, 1, 2, .... etc.
I end up mainly listening to music on = my=20 first changer. Limitation or configuration=20 error?
Cheers,
Reeves
--=20
Reeves Little -- Freelance=20 = Lunatic
&n= bsp; AIM:=20 Reeves9753
http://www.doe.com --=20 http://www.little.org
From:=20 Colby = Boles=20Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 = 6:22=20 PMSubject: RE: [slinkelist] = Alternating=20 players in CDJ with > 2 players?we=20 are talking about 3 changers here, which is a different situation. if = you had=20 many discs in changers 1 & 2, but few in 3, you would tend to see=20 1-2-1-2-1-2....colby------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BFDC9C.67A2E1C0-- From allahsiz@home.com Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:24:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:24:21 -0700 From: Sinan Karasu allahsiz@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] Alternating players in CDJ with > 2 players? I wish I had that problem. With 6/12 , in random playlist mode it just repeats the first song (or if I skip it, then the next song) over and over and over...... Sinan Reeves Little wrote: > > Didn’t find anything in the archives on this... > > When I shuffle a play list then ask it to alternate, it seems that CDJ > always alternates between player 1 and another player. Is there a way > to get it to cycle through more than one player? > > For my setup, I have 3 jukeboxes and MP3 files (essentially 4 > players). My play order typically looks like this: > > 1, 2, 1, 3, 1, MP3, 1, 2, .... etc. > > I end up mainly listening to music on my first changer. Limitation or > configuration error? > > Cheers, > Reeves > -- > Reeves Little -- Freelance Lunatic > AIM: Reeves9753 > http://www.doe.com -- http://www.little.org From allahsiz@home.com Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:00:17 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:00:17 -0700 From: Sinan Karasu allahsiz@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] Alternating players in CDJ with > 2 players? Actually, after I reset the player it started working. For some reason CDJ thought there was only one CD in that player ( Not a single track CD tho'....) Sinan Sinan Karasu wrote: > > I wish I had that problem. With 6/12 , in random playlist mode it just > repeats the first song (or if I skip it, then the next song) over and > over and over...... > > Sinan From pfaffman@relax.com Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:33:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:33:49 -0500 From: Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relax.com Subject: [slinkelist] Alternating players in CDJ with > 2 players? On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:24:21 -0700, Sinan Karasu-----Original Message-----
From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com= A>=20 [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvi= s.com]On=20 Behalf Of Francisco Antonio de Toledo
Sent: Thursday, = June 22,=20 2000 2:06 PM
To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: = Re:=20 [slinkelist] Alternating players in CDJ with > 2=20 players?Probably it is not a statistical = case. I have 2=20 players, and even though I have 6 discs in one and 300 in the other, = when I=20 alternate using random or whatever, it always plays a song from = player=20 1, then from player 2, then 1 again and so on...Francisco.----- Original Message ----- =From:=20 Colby Boles=20To: Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com ; Reeves = Little=20Sent: Thursday, June 22, = 2000 2:48=20 PMSubject: RE: [slinkelist] = Alternating=20 players in CDJ with > 2 players?it's probably a statistical and has to = do with=20 the fact that most of your discs are in changer 1.=20 true?colby-----Original Message-----Didn’t = find anything in=20 the archives on this...
From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com= A>=20 [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvi= s.com]On=20 Behalf Of Reeves Little
Sent: Thursday, June 22, = 2000=20 10:39 AM
To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Sub= ject:=20 [slinkelist] Alternating players in CDJ with > 2=20 players?
When I shuffle a play list then = ask it to=20 alternate, it seems that CDJ always alternates between player 1 = and=20 another player. Is there a way to get it to cycle through = more=20 than one player?
For my setup, I have 3 jukeboxes and MP3 = files=20 (essentially 4 players). My play order typically looks = like=20 this:
1, 2, 1, 3, 1, MP3, 1, 2, .... etc.
I end up = mainly=20 listening to music on my first changer. Limitation or=20 configuration error?
Cheers,
Reeves
--=20
Reeves Little -- Freelance=20 = Lunatic
&n= bsp; AIM:=20 Reeves9753
http://www.doe.com --=20 = http://www.little.orgsaid: > I wish I had that problem. With 6/12 , in random playlist mode it just > repeats the first song (or if I skip it, then the next song) over and > over and over...... I've solved that problem (for me anyway) by having the playlist create several songs ahead rather than only 2 or two. It'll still wrap if *all* of the next tracks are missing. The only bummer is that if you want to change searches without clearing the play list you have to listen (or skip) the songs already in the playlist from the previous search. -- Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relax.com +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ From mcody@mindspring.com Fri, 23 Jun 2000 20:39:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 20:39:26 -0400 From: Michael Cody mcody@mindspring.com Subject: [slinkelist] need a remote contral that uses CDJ and fits on coffee table This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFDD53.1F0C7F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone succesfully created/found anything like this? ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFDD53.1F0C7F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone succesfully created/found = anything like=20 this?------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFDD53.1F0C7F40-- From gtang@gtcons.com Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:33:48 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:33:48 -0700 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] need a remote contral that uses CDJ and fits on coffee table This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01BFDD39.303DE3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you understand how to use the device files and macro mappings in CDJ, you can literally use any remote control for the job. -G -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Michael Cody Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 5:39 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] need a remote contral that uses CDJ and fits on coffee table Anyone succesfully created/found anything like this? ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01BFDD39.303DE3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableIf you=20 understand how to use the device files and macro mappings in CDJ, you = can=20 literally use any remote control for the job.-G------=_NextPart_000_005A_01BFDD39.303DE3E0-- From AndyStein@aol.com Sat, 24 Jun 2000 02:18:33 EDT Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 02:18:33 EDT From: AndyStein@aol.com AndyStein@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] Help with Device Files I just installed the latest nonbeta version of CDJ (4/11/00). I would like CDJ automatically to switch to the proper input on my Yamaha RX-V995 when I select a track or disc, whether by double-clicking or by running a playlist. However, the closest model I find in the Devices/Yamaha folder is in the file yamaha_vs71360_rx-v890_dsp_receiver.cde. Is the RX-V890, which I assume this file controls, close enough to my RX-V995 that everything should work with minimal change? I once had a significantly lower model number of Yamaha receiver that appeared to use the same remote that my RX-V995 uses. In addition, as I mentioned in an earlier post, I have one additional dilemma. The RX-V995 assigns names to each input, e.g., VCR, CD, TV. The CD input connects to one analog and one digital device and advances from mode to mode--CD Auto, CD DTS, and CD Analog--with each press of the remote's CD button. I need CDJ to select the proper CD input (CD Auto or CD Analog) when I choose a track or disc. The potential problem seems to be that the RX-V995 defaults to CD Auto (digital) mode on the first manual press of the remote's CD button, then advances to CD DTS mode on the next manual press, and finally ends on CD Analog mode on the third press. The fourth press sets the mode to default CD Auto. But if one sets the mode to CD Analog and then uses the remote to switch to, say, VCR 1, the next press of the remote's CD button returns the RX-V995 to its last CD mode, in this case CD Analog. And if CDJ wants to play a track on a CD connected to the CD Auto (digital) port, CDJ will have no way to know in what CD mode the RX-V995 last sat and thus will not be able to choose between CD Auto (digital), CD DTS, and CD Analog. Can anyone think of a way for CDJ to distinguish CD modes? Perhaps some kind of counter could remember the number of presses of the remote's CD button and thus would know the correct number of additional presses required to advance the CD mode to the proper input. Since I cannot program, I remain unsure how to proceed. Thanks for your help. Andrew From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:28:16 -0000 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:28:16 -0000 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] need a remote contral that uses CDJ and fits on coffee table This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BFDDC6.E8D1F440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Download the mouse emulator to permit control of most CDJ functions with = a handheld remote by emulating mouse movements and clicks. It is = available in the Nirvis user download area. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Cody=20 To: slinkelist@nirvis.com=20 Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 12:39 AM Subject: [slinkelist] need a remote contral that uses CDJ and fits on = coffee table Anyone succesfully created/found anything like this? ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BFDDC6.E8D1F440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable-----Original Message-----
From: = slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com=20 [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Michael=20 Cody
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 5:39 PM
To:=20 slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] need a remote = contral=20 that uses CDJ and fits on coffee tableAnyone succesfully created/found = anything like=20 this?Download the mouse emulator to permit = control of=20 most CDJ functions with a handheld remote by emulating mouse movements = and=20 clicks. It is available in the Nirvis user download = area.------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BFDDC6.E8D1F440-- From AndyStein@aol.com Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:22:29 EDT Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:22:29 EDT From: AndyStein@aol.com AndyStein@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] need a remote contral that uses CDJ and fits on coffee table How difficult would it be to port CDJ to WinCE (or whatever they're calling it now) so that the remote, or a PDA, could do almost everything CDJ does without the wires and the computer? New PDAs are beginning to come with 32 MB RAM, which should hold a user file fairly easily. Even if a PDA version only allowed users to play discs and tracks and did not include features such as allowing manual input or CDDB lookup of titles, users could benefit by using the regular CDJ for the more complicated functions and reserving the PDA CDJ for simple control of CD players, receivers, playing songs and discs, etc. In effect, the PDA program could be a junior version of CDJ, so that the user transferred his user and playlist files from computer to PDA whenever necessary. Is such a PDA program a difficult port, particularly in the WinCE context? Andrew In a message dated 6/24/00 7:27:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, TWHumphrey@fuse.net writes: << Download the mouse emulator to permit control of most CDJ functions with a handheld remote by emulating mouse movements and clicks. It is available in the Nirvis user download area. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Cody To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 12:39 AM Subject: [slinkelist] need a remote contral that uses CDJ and fits on coffee table Anyone succesfully created/found anything like this? >> From gtang@gtcons.com Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:22:34 -0700 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:22:34 -0700 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] need a remote contral that uses CDJ and fits on coffee table Just an added note: PDA IR beams are too narrow and weak to be used for remote control. However, there are third party add-ons to many PDA's that adds a stronger, wider IR. -G -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of AndyStein@aol.com Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 11:22 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] need a remote contral that uses CDJ and fits on coffee table How difficult would it be to port CDJ to WinCE (or whatever they're calling it now) so that the remote, or a PDA, could do almost everything CDJ does without the wires and the computer? New PDAs are beginning to come with 32 MB RAM, which should hold a user file fairly easily. Even if a PDA version only allowed users to play discs and tracks and did not include features such as allowing manual input or CDDB lookup of titles, users could benefit by using the regular CDJ for the more complicated functions and reserving the PDA CDJ for simple control of CD players, receivers, playing songs and discs, etc. In effect, the PDA program could be a junior version of CDJ, so that the user transferred his user and playlist files from computer to PDA whenever necessary. Is such a PDA program a difficult port, particularly in the WinCE context? Andrew In a message dated 6/24/00 7:27:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, TWHumphrey@fuse.net writes: << Download the mouse emulator to permit control of most CDJ functions with a handheld remote by emulating mouse movements and clicks. It is available in the Nirvis user download area. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Cody To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 12:39 AM Subject: [slinkelist] need a remote contral that uses CDJ and fits on coffee table Anyone succesfully created/found anything like this? >> _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From cseymour@rochester.rr.com Sat, 24 Jun 2000 19:26:14 -0400 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 19:26:14 -0400 From: Chad Seymour cseymour@rochester.rr.com Subject: [slinkelist] need a remote contral that uses CDJ and fits on coffee table - My ultimate dream remote The latest compaq windows pda has an add on module that gives it a pc card slot (pcmcia). With that you could add a wireless ethernet card that would let your pda talk to your computer. Wireless ethernet should be the ultimate, you don't have to aim it at the equipment, you dont have to be in the same room, and it's bidrectional, so any command you enter could be ARQed and wouldn't get lost. In my opinion software development on WinCE is quite a hassle. It has probably improved in the last couple years, but I lost my enthusiasm for it. So i think the way to go is to just run a web browser on the pda and have it talk to the pc running an enhanced version of CDJASP. This is what I want. I have kept myself from buying a Pronto because of this dream. Once you have web-based control working on a pda, it automatically workes on all the other computers in your house that are on your wireless lan, including your tablet sized computers. I think a tablet computer is still small enough to be a coffee table remote, but big enough that you could use it for wireless surfing in your backyard... I havent checked out CDJReal yet - the software might already be available. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Tang, George Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 1:23 PM To: AndyStein@aol.com; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] need a remote contral that uses CDJ and fits on coffee table Just an added note: PDA IR beams are too narrow and weak to be used for remote control. However, there are third party add-ons to many PDA's that adds a stronger, wider IR. -G -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of AndyStein@aol.com Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 11:22 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] need a remote contral that uses CDJ and fits on coffee table How difficult would it be to port CDJ to WinCE (or whatever they're calling it now) so that the remote, or a PDA, could do almost everything CDJ does without the wires and the computer? New PDAs are beginning to come with 32 MB RAM, which should hold a user file fairly easily. Even if a PDA version only allowed users to play discs and tracks and did not include features such as allowing manual input or CDDB lookup of titles, users could benefit by using the regular CDJ for the more complicated functions and reserving the PDA CDJ for simple control of CD players, receivers, playing songs and discs, etc. In effect, the PDA program could be a junior version of CDJ, so that the user transferred his user and playlist files from computer to PDA whenever necessary. Is such a PDA program a difficult port, particularly in the WinCE context? Andrew In a message dated 6/24/00 7:27:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, TWHumphrey@fuse.net writes: << Download the mouse emulator to permit control of most CDJ functions with a handheld remote by emulating mouse movements and clicks. It is available in the Nirvis user download area. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Cody To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 12:39 AM Subject: [slinkelist] need a remote contral that uses CDJ and fits on coffee table Anyone succesfully created/found anything like this? >> _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Sun, 25 Jun 2000 08:06:34 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 08:06:34 -0400 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] Help with Device Files Can anyone think of a way for CDJ to distinguish CD modes? Perhaps some kind of counter could remember the number of presses of the remote's CD button and thus would know the correct number of additional presses required to advance the CD mode to the proper input. --- One way to set up CDJ and the slink-e to have a "state", is to define half of the parallel port's 8 I/O pins as outputs and the other half as inputs. Then, put jumper wires on the parallel port to connect the four output pins to the four input pins with, e.g., a 5 kiloohm resistor. (The resistor protects the slinke in case you make a wiring mistake or the I/O setup of the slinke is set up differently at some point.) Then, using a lowlevel.cde device, whenever you want to save the state of a device, you can write to the output lines on the parallel port, a four-bit state value, which will remain there until you later want to read the state, at which time you can read the four input lines which will have the four previously-written values. I'm not sure this will help you, however, since you still have the problem that the slinke will only see IR and not the receiver's responses to IR. When you see an IR command you will not know for sure that the receiver also saw and reacted to it. If slinke receives an IR the receiver missed, or vice versa, slinke's state will be wrong, and could not be fixed. Furthermore, if somebody changes the receiver input with the front panel buttons, there would be no IR generated so slinke would not know this happened, and once again would be out of sync. Sony receivers solve this problem by outputting state information each time the state changes, on the slink connector. That, I think, is the only reliable way to do what you are trying to do. Perhaps your Yamaha has a connector on the rear that outputs control information for other components. If so, perhaps you can decode the Yamaha control information and manage it with the slinke. If you do, I'm sure many Yamaha fans in the CDJ community will be indebted to you. From dlaslo@engineer.com Sun, 25 Jun 2000 09:47:17 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 09:47:17 -0400 From: Dennnis Laslo dlaslo@engineer.com Subject: [slinkelist] Help with Delphi needed I posted a longer version on the BBS as I didn't know about this list. I'm having trouble with receiving the device event programming with Delphi 5 on Win 2000. Anybody use Delphi? Perhaps I'm setting up incorrectly...I presume when I add a device to receive..I do it the same way as send. More than likely, Delphi is capturing the event inside a container and it doesn't "surface." From AndyStein@aol.com Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:41:59 EDT Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:41:59 EDT From: AndyStein@aol.com AndyStein@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] Help with Device Files Thanks for the quick and detailed responses. To address your questions: 1. I do not always want to use the same CD input. One changer connects to the CD Auto (digital) input, and another connects to the CD Analog input. I don't know what is supposed to connect to the third CD input, CD DTS. In addition, I have changers connected to other inputs, such as Tape/MD, VCR 1, DVD/LV, etc. I need CDJ automatically to switch to the proper CD input (CD Auto or CD Analog) when I select a disc or track. 2. I haven't seen a fancier remote with distinct buttons for CD Auto and CD Analog, but it's worth investigating and I will. 3. I'm not sure what you mean by locking the input. I think you're asking whether I can force the receiver into only one CD input (CD Auto, for instance), but if I did that, then I couldn't use the other CD input. Thanks again for your input (pun intended--sorry). Andrew In a message dated 6/25/00 7:35:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, iancole@earthlink.net writes: << I'm trying to understand - So bear with me for a few questions: 1) Do you ALWAYS want to use the same CD INPUT - (CD AUTO?) 2) Have you ever seen a "bigger / better" Yamaha remote that had DISTICT buttons for those modes? If so, you might be able to either borrow the remote, or "copy" the distict code into a universal remote (while at your favorite yamaha dealer), then bring it home, decode the "distict" code and use it. (I hope that made sense) 3) Have you check the user manual to make sure you can't "Lock" the input? My sony has a similar feature. > In addition, as I mentioned in an earlier post, I have one additional > dilemma. The RX-V995 assigns names to each input, e.g., VCR, CD, TV. The CD > input connects to one analog and one digital device and advances from mode to > mode--CD Auto, CD DTS, and CD Analog--with each press of the remote's CD > button. I need CDJ to select the proper CD input (CD Auto or CD Analog) when > I choose a track or disc. The potential problem seems to be that the RX-V995 > defaults to CD Auto (digital) mode on the first manual press of the remote's > CD button, then advances to CD DTS mode on the next manual press, and finally > ends on CD Analog mode on the third press. The fourth press sets the mode to > default CD Auto. But if one sets the mode to CD Analog and then uses the > remote to switch to, say, VCR 1, the next press of the remote's CD button > returns the RX-V995 to its last CD mode, in this case CD Analog. And if CDJ > wants to play a track on a CD connected to the CD Auto (digital) port, CDJ > will have no way to know in what CD mode the RX-V995 last sat and thus will > not be able to choose between CD Auto (digital), CD DTS, and CD Analog. Can > anyone think of a way for CDJ to distinguish CD modes? Perhaps some kind of > counter could remember the number of presses of the remote's CD button and > thus would know the correct number of additional presses required to advance > the CD mode to the proper input. >> From AndyStein@aol.com Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:58:13 EDT Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:58:13 EDT From: AndyStein@aol.com AndyStein@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] Help with Device Files Thanks for the detailed reply. Unfortunately, my facility with hardware makes my software skills look great. I can't even build the simple switch Colby presented on Nirvis's Web site. :) I was hoping somehow to modify the file yamaha_vs71360_rx-v890_dsp_receiver.cde to accomplish the ends I outlined in my earlier post. How I don't know. I hoped to stumble onto the answer since I cannot program in anything except Atari BASIC and Applesoft. :) I will try to research whether the Yamaha receiver sends control information. I'm not sure what to do with such information if it exists, but I'm sure someone can point me in the right direction. Andrew In a message dated 6/25/00 5:07:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, TWHumphrey@fuse.net writes: << Can anyone think of a way for CDJ to distinguish CD modes? Perhaps some kind of counter could remember the number of presses of the remote's CD button and thus would know the correct number of additional presses required to advance the CD mode to the proper input. --- One way to set up CDJ and the slink-e to have a "state", is to define half of the parallel port's 8 I/O pins as outputs and the other half as inputs. Then, put jumper wires on the parallel port to connect the four output pins to the four input pins with, e.g., a 5 kiloohm resistor. (The resistor protects the slinke in case you make a wiring mistake or the I/O setup of the slinke is set up differently at some point.) Then, using a lowlevel.cde device, whenever you want to save the state of a device, you can write to the output lines on the parallel port, a four-bit state value, which will remain there until you later want to read the state, at which time you can read the four input lines which will have the four previously-written values. I'm not sure this will help you, however, since you still have the problem that the slinke will only see IR and not the receiver's responses to IR. When you see an IR command you will not know for sure that the receiver also saw and reacted to it. If slinke receives an IR the receiver missed, or vice versa, slinke's state will be wrong, and could not be fixed. Furthermore, if somebody changes the receiver input with the front panel buttons, there would be no IR generated so slinke would not know this happened, and once again would be out of sync. Sony receivers solve this problem by outputting state information each time the state changes, on the slink connector. That, I think, is the only reliable way to do what you are trying to do. Perhaps your Yamaha has a connector on the rear that outputs control information for other components. If so, perhaps you can decode the Yamaha control information and manage it with the slinke. If you do, I'm sure many Yamaha fans in the CDJ community will be indebted to you. >> From iancole@earthlink.net Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:11:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:11:30 -0400 From: Ian Cole iancole@earthlink.net Subject: [slinkelist] Help with Device Files Since you are using analog at times, why not go 100% analog, buy a mixer & use a single input? I use the multimixer 10 for this purpose - I purchased locally at a MARS music store http://www.midiman.com/midiman/html/products/mixers.htm This would do up to 5 changers (10 Channels = 5 stereo) Then, you use a single analog input (one that doesn't change each time you hit the button on the remote) It isn't the most elegant solution, but you also aren't depending on as much IR control, which in my book, is ALWAYS better :>) Ian ----- Original Message ----- From:----- Original Message -----From:=20 Michael=20 CodySent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 = 12:39=20 AMSubject: [slinkelist] need a = remote=20 contral that uses CDJ and fits on coffee tableAnyone succesfully created/found = anything like=20 this?To: Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Help with Device Files > Thanks for the quick and detailed responses. To address your questions: > > 1. I do not always want to use the same CD input. One changer connects > to the CD Auto (digital) input, and another connects to the CD Analog input. > I don't know what is supposed to connect to the third CD input, CD DTS. In > addition, I have changers connected to other inputs, such as Tape/MD, VCR 1, > DVD/LV, etc. I need CDJ automatically to switch to the proper CD input (CD > Auto or CD Analog) when I select a disc or track. > > 2. I haven't seen a fancier remote with distinct buttons for CD Auto and > CD Analog, but it's worth investigating and I will. > > 3. I'm not sure what you mean by locking the input. I think you're > asking whether I can force the receiver into only one CD input (CD Auto, for > instance), but if I did that, then I couldn't use the other CD input. > > Thanks again for your input (pun intended--sorry). > > > Andrew > > > In a message dated 6/25/00 7:35:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > iancole@earthlink.net writes: > > << I'm trying to understand - So bear with me for a few questions: > > 1) Do you ALWAYS want to use the same CD INPUT - (CD AUTO?) > 2) Have you ever seen a "bigger / better" Yamaha remote that had DISTICT > buttons for those modes? If so, you might be able to either borrow the > remote, or "copy" the distict code into a universal remote (while at your > favorite yamaha dealer), then bring it home, decode the "distict" code and > use it. (I hope that made sense) > 3) Have you check the user manual to make sure you can't "Lock" the input? > My sony has a similar feature. > > > In addition, as I mentioned in an earlier post, I have one additional > > dilemma. The RX-V995 assigns names to each input, e.g., VCR, CD, TV. The > CD > > input connects to one analog and one digital device and advances from mode > to > > mode--CD Auto, CD DTS, and CD Analog--with each press of the remote's CD > > button. I need CDJ to select the proper CD input (CD Auto or CD Analog) > when > > I choose a track or disc. The potential problem seems to be that the > RX-V995 > > defaults to CD Auto (digital) mode on the first manual press of the > remote's > > CD button, then advances to CD DTS mode on the next manual press, and > finally > > ends on CD Analog mode on the third press. The fourth press sets the mode > to > > default CD Auto. But if one sets the mode to CD Analog and then uses the > > remote to switch to, say, VCR 1, the next press of the remote's CD button > > returns the RX-V995 to its last CD mode, in this case CD Analog. And if > CDJ > > wants to play a track on a CD connected to the CD Auto (digital) port, CDJ > > will have no way to know in what CD mode the RX-V995 last sat and thus > will > > not be able to choose between CD Auto (digital), CD DTS, and CD Analog. > Can > > anyone think of a way for CDJ to distinguish CD modes? Perhaps some kind > of > > counter could remember the number of presses of the remote's CD button and > > thus would know the correct number of additional presses required to > advance > > the CD mode to the proper input. > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From AndyStein@aol.com Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:27:38 EDT Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:27:38 EDT From: AndyStein@aol.com AndyStein@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] Help with Device Files I only use analog for an ES changer connected to the Yamaha receiver because I understand that the ES changer has a better D/A converter than the receiver. But since my other changers are not ES models, I use the digital outputs to connect them to the receiver. I figure this method provides the best sound quality, though it may complicate things. Andrew In a message dated 6/26/00 4:14:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, iancole@earthlink.net writes: << Since you are using analog at times, why not go 100% analog, buy a mixer & use a single input? I use the multimixer 10 for this purpose - I purchased locally at a MARS music store http://www.midiman.com/midiman/html/products/mixers.htm This would do up to 5 changers (10 Channels = 5 stereo) Then, you use a single analog input (one that doesn't change each time you hit the button on the remote) It isn't the most elegant solution, but you also aren't depending on as much IR control, which in my book, is ALWAYS better :>) Ian >> From AndyStein@aol.com Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:38:16 EDT Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:38:16 EDT From: AndyStein@aol.com AndyStein@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] Help with Device Files I think the only way for CDJ to know the current state of the receiver's CD input is to assume by default that the first press of the CD button will put the receiver into CD Auto mode, since this becomes the state after the receiver is turned on upon the first CD button press. Or, CDJ could ask for the user to input the current state. I think that the first option is better because it is less cumbersome and best reflects the most common state of the receiver. Regardless, the user should be glad to shut the receiver off and back on when he runs CDJ to reap the benefits of automation. I know I won't mind. :) I would like to stay with my Yamaha receiver even though it may complicate the situation. It has lots of inputs, DTS, and good sound. If you wouldn't mind sending those instructions for automatically switching sources, I would most appreciate it. Is the device file yamaha_vs71360_rx-v890_dsp_receiver.cde, included with CDJ, the easiest starting-point? I think the RX-V890 and the RX-V995 (my model) share the same remote. Finally, does CDJ permit the counter feature I mentioned, which would have to assume the first CD button press puts the receiver into CD Auto, the second press into CD DTS, the third press into CD Analog, and the fourth press back into CD Auto? Thanks again for your help! Andrew In a message dated 6/26/00 1:44:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, michael@laserle.fi writes: << To your original mail : I don't think there is any EASY/REASONABLE way to do the cd mode switch (or any control that cycles through the steps) UNLESS you can think of a way to get the PC to know what the current state of that control is (slink does that, but yamaha...) You should be able to automaticly switch audio sources (CD-TAPE-MD-AUX... where ever the players are connected) in Yamaha with CDJ easily enough. I can send you instructions If you need, they are for sony Control-A1 but I can alter them for IR control, they should work IN THEORY (don't own A Yamaha) Easiest solution = Buy sony Amp. (I did)(even if Sony has poorer sound quality) -michael (A) >> From dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:10:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:10:12 -0400 From: David Morgenlender dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ: Problems with new installation Today I installed CDJ & my new Slink-e. This is the latest beta version = of CDJ, running under Win95. I've got a Sony CDP-CX450 connected by SLink to the Slink-e. I've got a CDP-CX57 connected to the CX450 by SLink. =20 Once I got some problems with the CAT5-DB9 connectors fixed, things = seemed to work pretty well. But there are some problems: 1. I told it to check all slots & lookup info in CDDB. This seemed to = work, except for being VERY slow. So I went out for a few hours & came back = expecting things to close to done (there are about 255 CDs in the CX450 & 5 in the = CX57). But when I came back CDJ was working on the disk in slot 168; an = Internet CDDB Lookup dialog was displayed, saying Query - Handle Closing. The software= was hung. So I alt-ctl-del to close CDJ, and restarted. CDJ hung during = it's initial check of the players. I noticed the CX450 had its Play & Pause = lights lit. So I rebooted again, hit Stop on the CX450 remote & started again. = The database looked good, filled thru 167. I said to check all Empty slots. = It's currently running & seems to be working ok. Any idea why the problems? Is it normally incredibly slow? (I haven't = timed it, but it's probably 30-60 seconds per CD; I have a cable modem = Internet connection.) 2. I'm having problems with CDJ's Help. When I select non-HTML Help via= Start, I get a "HTML Help ActiveX Controls" dialog saying "Need newer version of HHCTRL.OCX to read this file". If I say OK to this & about 10 more = repetitions of this dialog, Help comes up ok. OTOH, if I select Help from within = CDJ, I go thru all those dialogs, then get a one screen help display with no = ability to go anywhere from there. Do you know what's going on with these errors? Why do I get an HTML Help= error, when I select non-HTML help? I can't wait until CDJ finishes identifying all the CDs so I can start = using CDJ for real! It looks like a very useful app with Slink-e! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From mspring@employees.org Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:34:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Max Spring mspring@employees.org Subject: [slinkelist] Slink-e problems with external receiver modules I have problems in getting an external receiver module to work with the Slink-e: Most of my telephone cables don't work at all. I guess either because they don't have 4 conductors, or they have it in the wrong order. By using one particular cable (presumably the one I got with the Slink-e months ago) shows some sign of life: Whenever I plugin or unplug a receiver module, the control LED flashes. Also when I send IR signals to that module, the control LED flashes, too. However, the Slink-e doesn't seem to notice anything of it. Whereas, using the build-in IR receiver works great. I'm confused. I'd appreciate if someone could help me further. Regards, -Max From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:18:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:18:15 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] Slink-e problems with external receiver modules Telephone cables have the conductors reversed. You need a data cable (no idea where you get one). I just lob off the connector at one end and put on a new one in the opposite configuration. --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Max Spring > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 12:34 AM > To: help@nirvis.com; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] Slink-e problems with external receiver modules > > > I have problems in getting an external receiver module to work with the > Slink-e: > > Most of my telephone cables don't work at all. I guess either > because they > don't have 4 conductors, or they have it in the wrong order. > > By using one particular cable (presumably the one I got with the > Slink-e months > ago) shows some sign of life: Whenever I plugin or unplug a > receiver module, > the control LED flashes. Also when I send IR signals to that module, the > control LED flashes, too. > > However, the Slink-e doesn't seem to notice anything of it. > Whereas, using the > build-in IR receiver works great. > > I'm confused. I'd appreciate if someone could help me further. > > Regards, > -Max > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From iancole@earthlink.net Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:59:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:59:01 -0400 From: Ian Cole iancole@earthlink.net Subject: [slinkelist] Slink-e problems with external receiver modules Have you enabled that IR port in slinkeserv? Go to View | Settings - I suggest reading the documentation if you haven't used the IR matrix before. Have you added a IR device file that uses that IR port (or all ports?) Memory tells me even when it is enabled, you must have a device (or lowlevel) enabled using that port before you will see any traffic in CDJ (I'm assuming that's where you are looking for signs of life.) Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Max Spring To: ; Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 12:34 AM Subject: [slinkelist] Slink-e problems with external receiver modules > I have problems in getting an external receiver module to work with the > Slink-e: > > Most of my telephone cables don't work at all. I guess either because they > don't have 4 conductors, or they have it in the wrong order. > > By using one particular cable (presumably the one I got with the Slink-e months > ago) shows some sign of life: Whenever I plugin or unplug a receiver module, > the control LED flashes. Also when I send IR signals to that module, the > control LED flashes, too. > > However, the Slink-e doesn't seem to notice anything of it. Whereas, using the > build-in IR receiver works great. > > I'm confused. I'd appreciate if someone could help me further. > > Regards, > -Max > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From michael@laserle.fi Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:27:00 +0300 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:27:00 +0300 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] Help on getting started on programming SlinkeServ applications w/ Delphi I use delphi daily in my work so I haven't got (too much) problems with the language, but if some one could bother to show the basic guidelines of how to establish communication with slinkeserv <-> delphi. The real basics : like where to find libraries that (and what) I need etc. -- --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- -------------------------------------------------------------------- From pfaffman@relax.com Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:49:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:49:01 -0500 From: Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relax.com Subject: [slinkelist] Slink-e problems with external receiver modules As you suggest, regular phone cords don't work, as they swap the connections, for reasons unknown to me. Either get (or make) straight-through cables or use a connector to connect two polarity-reversing cables together. The blink as you plug it in and when you press buttons on your remote are indeed good signs. Anyway, you've gotten that far. If you want slinke to retransmit IR, you next need to go to Slink-serv & make sure that the port that you're plugged in to is turned on. I forget that the menu selection is called, but there's not much to choose from. If you want slinke to respond to the commands, you need to make sure that whatever device files you have loaded are set to listen to whatever port you plugged the thing in to. On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:34:10 -0700 (PDT), Max Spring said: > I have problems in getting an external receiver module to work with the > Slink-e: > Most of my telephone cables don't work at all. I guess either because they > don't have 4 conductors, or they have it in the wrong order. > By using one particular cable (presumably the one I got with the Slink-e months > ago) shows some sign of life: Whenever I plugin or unplug a receiver module, > the control LED flashes. Also when I send IR signals to that module, the > control LED flashes, too. > However, the Slink-e doesn't seem to notice anything of it. Whereas, using the > build-in IR receiver works great. > I'm confused. I'd appreciate if someone could help me further. > Regards, > -Max > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist -- Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relax.com +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ From kathey@pobox.com Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:53:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:53:57 -0700 From: -kevin- kathey@pobox.com Subject: [slinkelist] any success with the new Sony 400 CD players? Rick, I've got the CDP-CX400 and it works like a charm. Not a single problem. Worked perfectly the first time. I've only got about 75 discs in there, so I'm not dead sure about those discs beyond 300 mark. Perhaps I will give it a go... On 00-06-15 13:53, Rick Engle wrote: > Now that they are available I was thinking of getting one of the new 400 > disc Sony CD changers. Has anyone had success using the s-linke with it? -- -* -kevin- *- -* sick with the good infection *- -* kathey@pobox.com *- -* http://www.pobox.com/~kathey *- From gtang@gtcons.com Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:36:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:36:36 -0700 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ: Problems with new installation CDDB has a daily limitation of how many discs you can get per day. So it might take you a couple of days to get all of them. -G -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of David Morgenlender Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 7:10 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ: Problems with new installation Today I installed CDJ & my new Slink-e. This is the latest beta version of CDJ, running under Win95. I've got a Sony CDP-CX450 connected by SLink to the Slink-e. I've got a CDP-CX57 connected to the CX450 by SLink. Once I got some problems with the CAT5-DB9 connectors fixed, things seemed to work pretty well. But there are some problems: 1. I told it to check all slots & lookup info in CDDB. This seemed to work, except for being VERY slow. So I went out for a few hours & came back expecting things to close to done (there are about 255 CDs in the CX450 & 5 in the CX57). But when I came back CDJ was working on the disk in slot 168; an Internet CDDB Lookup dialog was displayed, saying Query - Handle Closing. The software was hung. So I alt-ctl-del to close CDJ, and restarted. CDJ hung during it's initial check of the players. I noticed the CX450 had its Play & Pause lights lit. So I rebooted again, hit Stop on the CX450 remote & started again. The database looked good, filled thru 167. I said to check all Empty slots. It's currently running & seems to be working ok. Any idea why the problems? Is it normally incredibly slow? (I haven't timed it, but it's probably 30-60 seconds per CD; I have a cable modem Internet connection.) 2. I'm having problems with CDJ's Help. When I select non-HTML Help via Start, I get a "HTML Help ActiveX Controls" dialog saying "Need newer version of HHCTRL.OCX to read this file". If I say OK to this & about 10 more repetitions of this dialog, Help comes up ok. OTOH, if I select Help from within CDJ, I go thru all those dialogs, then get a one screen help display with no ability to go anywhere from there. Do you know what's going on with these errors? Why do I get an HTML Help error, when I select non-HTML help? I can't wait until CDJ finishes identifying all the CDs so I can start using CDJ for real! It looks like a very useful app with Slink-e! ======================================================= Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu ======================================================= _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:16:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:16:34 -0400 From: David Morgenlender dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] any success with the new Sony 400 CD players? On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:53:57 -0700, you wrote: >I've got the CDP-CX400 and it works like a charm. Not a single >problem. Worked perfectly the first time. I've only got about 75 >discs in there, so I'm not dead sure about those discs beyond 300 >mark. Perhaps I will give it a go... I installed my Slink-e yesterday, then connecting my CDP-CX450 & CDP-CX57 (50+1). The funny (& expensive) thing is the reason I got the CX450 over= the CX400 was for the fancy remote ... which now won't be used frequently = (probably only when the PC is unavailable) given the Slink-e, which I didn't know = about then! I've got 255 CDs loaded (slots 2-256) & so far they seem to work ok. A couple of questions about using CDJ with these new 400 CD players ... = these new models support a list of artists, as well as the old groups; each CD= can be assigned an artist & a group. Do you know of any way to use CDJ to = assign & upload artists, especially, but also groups? Also, I'm going to play around with these CDJ issues, which I haven't = gotten a chance to do yet ... but in case you or anybody else knows the answers = ... Some CDs couldn't be identified. Some had incorrect artists. Some had inconsistent use of artist, e.g. "Beatles" vs. "The Beatles", which will probably screw up artist sorts, etc. Presumably, CDJ is simply taking = what CDDB gives it. The question is how to correct the problem ... is there any = way to manually correct these items, especially so future CDDB updates don't = undo the changes? (Is there any way to notify CDDB of the problems, so the = database will be corrected?) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:18:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:18:28 -0400 From: David Morgenlender dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ: Problems with new installation On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:36:36 -0700, you wrote: >CDDB has a daily limitation of how many discs you can get per day. So = it >might take you a couple of days to get all of them. I didn't realize that. Thanks for pointing it out. Fortunately, I = didn't reach that limit! Now I just have to load the remaining 150 or so CDs! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From gtang@gtcons.com Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:31:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:31:56 -0700 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] any success with the new Sony 400 CD players? There was no way for CDJ to download group information to the players because the older players didn't allow it. However, with the new 400 disk machines, that might have changed. Colby will have to add those features if that's the case. -G -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of David Morgenlender Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:17 AM To: -kevin- Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com; Rick Engle Subject: Re: [slinkelist] any success with the new Sony 400 CD players? On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:53:57 -0700, you wrote: >I've got the CDP-CX400 and it works like a charm. Not a single >problem. Worked perfectly the first time. I've only got about 75 >discs in there, so I'm not dead sure about those discs beyond 300 >mark. Perhaps I will give it a go... I installed my Slink-e yesterday, then connecting my CDP-CX450 & CDP-CX57 (50+1). The funny (& expensive) thing is the reason I got the CX450 over the CX400 was for the fancy remote ... which now won't be used frequently (probably only when the PC is unavailable) given the Slink-e, which I didn't know about then! I've got 255 CDs loaded (slots 2-256) & so far they seem to work ok. A couple of questions about using CDJ with these new 400 CD players ... these new models support a list of artists, as well as the old groups; each CD can be assigned an artist & a group. Do you know of any way to use CDJ to assign & upload artists, especially, but also groups? Also, I'm going to play around with these CDJ issues, which I haven't gotten a chance to do yet ... but in case you or anybody else knows the answers ... Some CDs couldn't be identified. Some had incorrect artists. Some had inconsistent use of artist, e.g. "Beatles" vs. "The Beatles", which will probably screw up artist sorts, etc. Presumably, CDJ is simply taking what CDDB gives it. The question is how to correct the problem ... is there any way to manually correct these items, especially so future CDDB updates don't undo the changes? (Is there any way to notify CDDB of the problems, so the database will be corrected?) ======================================================= Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu ======================================================= _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From ricke@MICROSOFT.com Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:25:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:25:26 -0700 From: Rick Engle ricke@MICROSOFT.com Subject: [slinkelist] any success with the new Sony 400 CD players? Thats the same CD unit I have (CX-450). I'm curious if slink-e could be configured to support a remote keyboard. The new units will allow a standard keyboard to be plugged into the front to enter title info and it would be nice if that could be done remotely by a PC networked to the PC thats plugged into the slinke. Thanks, Rick -----Original Message----- From: David Morgenlender [mailto:dmorgen@alum.mit.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 1:17 PM To: -kevin- Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com; Rick Engle Subject: Re: [slinkelist] any success with the new Sony 400 CD players? On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:53:57 -0700, you wrote: >I've got the CDP-CX400 and it works like a charm. Not a single >problem. Worked perfectly the first time. I've only got about 75 >discs in there, so I'm not dead sure about those discs beyond 300 >mark. Perhaps I will give it a go... I installed my Slink-e yesterday, then connecting my CDP-CX450 & CDP-CX57 (50+1). The funny (& expensive) thing is the reason I got the CX450 over the CX400 was for the fancy remote ... which now won't be used frequently (probably only when the PC is unavailable) given the Slink-e, which I didn't know about then! I've got 255 CDs loaded (slots 2-256) & so far they seem to work ok. A couple of questions about using CDJ with these new 400 CD players ... these new models support a list of artists, as well as the old groups; each CD can be assigned an artist & a group. Do you know of any way to use CDJ to assign & upload artists, especially, but also groups? Also, I'm going to play around with these CDJ issues, which I haven't gotten a chance to do yet ... but in case you or anybody else knows the answers ... Some CDs couldn't be identified. Some had incorrect artists. Some had inconsistent use of artist, e.g. "Beatles" vs. "The Beatles", which will probably screw up artist sorts, etc. Presumably, CDJ is simply taking what CDDB gives it. The question is how to correct the problem ... is there any way to manually correct these items, especially so future CDDB updates don't undo the changes? (Is there any way to notify CDDB of the problems, so the database will be corrected?) ======================================================= Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu ======================================================= From dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:37:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:37:27 -0400 From: David Morgenlender dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] any success with the new Sony 400 CD players? On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:25:26 -0700, you wrote: >Thats the same CD unit I have (CX-450). I'm curious if slink-e could = be >configured to support a remote keyboard. The new units will allow a >standard keyboard to be plugged into the front to enter title info and = it >would be nice if that could be done remotely by a PC networked to the = PC >thats plugged into the slinke. Whatever Slink-e doesn't support ... I suspect it would be feasible to = write software to do this, as long as the CD Player accepts that kind of data = via Slink. The CX450 does not accept all data via remote control or keyboard according to Sony; as I recall, group names cannot be entered this way; = but I don't know if this data can be entered via Slink. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From gtang@gtcons.com Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:34:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:34:45 -0700 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] any success with the new Sony 400 CD players? You can use CDJ to download the disk titles up to 13 characters each. -G -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Rick Engle Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 11:25 AM To: David Morgenlender; -kevin- Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] any success with the new Sony 400 CD players? Thats the same CD unit I have (CX-450). I'm curious if slink-e could be configured to support a remote keyboard. The new units will allow a standard keyboard to be plugged into the front to enter title info and it would be nice if that could be done remotely by a PC networked to the PC thats plugged into the slinke. Thanks, Rick -----Original Message----- From: David Morgenlender [mailto:dmorgen@alum.mit.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 1:17 PM To: -kevin- Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com; Rick Engle Subject: Re: [slinkelist] any success with the new Sony 400 CD players? On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:53:57 -0700, you wrote: >I've got the CDP-CX400 and it works like a charm. Not a single >problem. Worked perfectly the first time. I've only got about 75 >discs in there, so I'm not dead sure about those discs beyond 300 >mark. Perhaps I will give it a go... I installed my Slink-e yesterday, then connecting my CDP-CX450 & CDP-CX57 (50+1). The funny (& expensive) thing is the reason I got the CX450 over the CX400 was for the fancy remote ... which now won't be used frequently (probably only when the PC is unavailable) given the Slink-e, which I didn't know about then! I've got 255 CDs loaded (slots 2-256) & so far they seem to work ok. A couple of questions about using CDJ with these new 400 CD players ... these new models support a list of artists, as well as the old groups; each CD can be assigned an artist & a group. Do you know of any way to use CDJ to assign & upload artists, especially, but also groups? Also, I'm going to play around with these CDJ issues, which I haven't gotten a chance to do yet ... but in case you or anybody else knows the answers ... Some CDs couldn't be identified. Some had incorrect artists. Some had inconsistent use of artist, e.g. "Beatles" vs. "The Beatles", which will probably screw up artist sorts, etc. Presumably, CDJ is simply taking what CDDB gives it. The question is how to correct the problem ... is there any way to manually correct these items, especially so future CDDB updates don't undo the changes? (Is there any way to notify CDDB of the problems, so the database will be corrected?) ======================================================= Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu ======================================================= _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:38:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:38:35 -0400 From: David Morgenlender dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] any success with the new Sony 400 CD players? On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:34:45 -0700, you wrote: >You can use CDJ to download the disk titles up to 13 characters each. I don't have the manual in front of me, but I seem to recall that the = CX450 supports 20 character names! CDJ has downloaded the disk titles to the CX450; I haven't checked the = length issue. One problem is the disk titles do not seem to have been = downloaded to the CX57, although CDJ has them. I haven't investigated this problem = yet. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From mspring@employees.org Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:59:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Max Spring mspring@employees.org Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Slink-e problems with external receiver modules The hint with enabling the port(s) was the missing piece. Doing some cables myself is not a big deal... Thanks a lot! -Max > From: "Nirvis Help (David)" > Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:21:12 -0700 > > Hi Max, > > As people on the list have also mentioned, you need to use RJ-11 Data > cables. These are wired straight through. Normal phone cables are crossed > and won't work. You also need to use SlinkeServ to turn on the receiver > ports. > > Sincerely, > > David Aue > Nirvis Systems > > -----Original Message----- > From: Max Spring [mailto:mspring@employees.org] > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 9:34 PM > To: help@nirvis.com; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Slink-e problems with external receiver modules > > I have problems in getting an external receiver module to work with the > Slink-e: > > Most of my telephone cables don't work at all. I guess either because they > don't have 4 conductors, or they have it in the wrong order. > > By using one particular cable (presumably the one I got with the Slink-e > months > ago) shows some sign of life: Whenever I plugin or unplug a receiver module, > the control LED flashes. Also when I send IR signals to that module, the > control LED flashes, too. > > However, the Slink-e doesn't seem to notice anything of it. Whereas, using > the > build-in IR receiver works great. > > I'm confused. I'd appreciate if someone could help me further. > > Regards, > -Max From jon@welfringer.com 28 Jun 2000 11:34:34 -0700 Date: 28 Jun 2000 11:34:34 -0700 From: jon@welfringer.com jon@welfringer.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Help on getting started on programming SlinkeServ applications w/ Delphi > Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:27:00 +0300 > From: Michael Holopainen > To: "slinkelist@nirvis.com" > Subject: [slinkelist] Help on getting started on programming SlinkeServ applications w/ Delphi > > I use delphi daily in my work so I haven't got (too much) problems with > the language, but if some one could bother to show the basic guidelines > of how to establish communication with slinkeserv <-> delphi. > > The real basics : like where to find libraries that (and what) I need > etc. > I'll send you a sample Delphi App that does both send and receive. (It will probably be a day or two before I can get it out though). I'll also send this to Colby to replace the current IrHelper on the Nirvis download page. I'm not sure how many people are still using that app, but having the source available for download will be a good starter app for any Delphi folks. In answer to your question, you don't need any libraries. In Delphi you just have to import the active X control you want to use. Delphi will create a wrapper object so that the active-x control appears just like any other Delphi object. You'll find it pretty easy to do. - Jon From kdb@best.com Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:45:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:45:43 -0700 From: Kevin Ball kdb@best.com Subject: [slinkelist] any success with the new Sony 400 CD players? I have the CX400 and the disc title is indeed 20 characters. It would be really nice if CDJ would support a 20 char Disc Memo for the CX-400/450 players. This is probably an easier change than supporting the Artist File. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 6:32 AM Subject: slinkelist digest, Vol 1 #311 - 11 msgs >Message: 10 >From: David Morgenlender >To: >Cc: "Rick Engle" , "-kevin-" , > >Subject: Re: [slinkelist] any success with the new Sony 400 CD players? >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:38:35 -0400 > >On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:34:45 -0700, you wrote: > >>You can use CDJ to download the disk titles up to 13 characters each. > >I don't have the manual in front of me, but I seem to recall that the CX450 >supports 20 character names!----- Kevin D. Ball kdb@best.com From John.C.Ryan@msdw.com Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:02:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:02:32 -0400 From: John Ryan John.C.Ryan@msdw.com Subject: [slinkelist] Copying .mdb files I am trying to use an old 486 with win95 as a dedicated slinke controller. I loaded the latest CDJ(6/26) and transferred the user.mdb file via floppy from the machine I used to use, a PIII with win98 also running the 6/26 cdj. The problem is that after taking a while to read the database, cdj on the 486 only displays a single unnamed mp3 file. The database path is set to the proper location. Does anyone know of a reason this does not work? -jcr From kathey@pobox.com Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:54:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:54:10 -0700 From: -kevin- kathey@pobox.com Subject: [slinkelist] Request for help: how to add a 3rd player? Reeves, On 00-05-25 09:30, Reeves Little wrote: > I've finally done it, used up all the slots in my two changers and need to > add a third. I thought it would be a simple matter of daisy-chaining a > third changer on the back of the other two, but the pass through only seems > to work if a changer sees a second (or did I do something wrong?). When I > turn on all my players and press play on the third, I get no sound. > > Any hints? Do I need to configure CDJ to switch audio sources on my amp for > me? Do I need to plug the CD players together in a special order? Do I > need to do something special with the changer ID (1, 2 or 3)? > > Here's how I have it setup: > [Audio] > Amp > | > CD1 > | > CD3 > | > CD2 (my new changer) > > > [Slink] > > slinke port 1 slinke port 2 > | | > CD3 CD2 > | > CD1 > | > Amp I have the same setup, I figured there was no way to get the audio through, especially since the S-Link won't go through. So, I just used one of those piggy-back cables so that I didn't have to use another input on the amp. To modify your Audio picture: [Audio] Amp |_____ CD2 (my new changer) | CD1 | CD3 Yes, this means you can have two audio signals on teh same input, but if you are using the CDJ to control it, this will never happen. -- -* -kevin- *- -* sick with the good infection *- -* kathey@pobox.com *- -* http://www.pobox.com/~kathey *- From mcody@mindspring.com Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:38:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:38:03 -0400 From: Michael Cody mcody@mindspring.com Subject: [slinkelist] request for Colby: Sort by songs This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFE276.E37B7340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It would be a handy feature (and hopefully not to hard) to be able to have a tab that lists all of the songs in the CD player - then you could sort by song title alphabetically and have all the different versions of the same song appear together. Would be great for comaring orchestral pieces or for artists like Zappa and The Dead that have numerous versions of the same songs. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFE276.E37B7340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It = would be a handy=20 feature (and hopefully not to hard) to be able to have a tab that lists = all of=20 the songs in the CD player - then you could sort by song title = alphabetically=20 and have all the different versions of the same song appear = together. =20 Would be great for comaring orchestral pieces or for artists like Zappa = and The=20 Dead that have numerous versions of the same songs.------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFE276.E37B7340-- From dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:34:57 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:34:57 -0400 From: David Morgenlender dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] request for Colby: Sort by songs On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:38:03 -0400, you wrote: >It would be a handy feature (and hopefully not to hard) to be able to = have a >tab that lists all of the songs in the CD player - then you could sort = by >song title alphabetically and have all the different versions of the = same >song appear together. Would be great for comaring orchestral pieces or = for >artists like Zappa and The Dead that have numerous versions of the same >songs. The Search tab almost does it ... if only there were a way to search for = all (or wildcard search). I haven't found a way yet, though. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From frtoledo@uol.com.br Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:33:11 -0300 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:33:11 -0300 From: Francisco Antonio de Toledo frtoledo@uol.com.br Subject: [slinkelist] request for Colby: Sort by songs >The Search tab almost does it ... if only there were a way to search for all (or >wildcard search). I haven't found a way yet, though. In the search field type "" with no space between them, and all the songs appear in the result. Francisco Toledo From dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:54:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:54:19 -0400 From: David Morgenlender dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] request for Colby: Sort by songs On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:33:11 -0300, you wrote: >>The Search tab almost does it ... if only there were a way to search = for >all (or >>wildcard search). I haven't found a way yet, though. > >In the search field type "" with no space between them, and all the = songs >appear in the result. That does the trick. Thanks! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D