[slinkelist] CDJ and MP3's

Gerrard Thirkell gerrard@vamray.com.au
Wed, 17 May 2000 10:14:01 +1000


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Last year I built a Delphi App to record the playlist on
Wave files and then converted the WAVE files to MP3.

I first tried BLADEENC at 128k but found Audio Catalyst
with VBR at 128k produced a better sounding result.

----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Tang, George=20
  To: Thomas W. Humphrey ; slinkelist@nirvis.com ; desai@meru.com ; =
dbgreen@att.net=20
  Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 11:24 PM
  Subject: RE: [slinkelist] CDJ and MP3's


  Possibly... between my work and my personal projects, I might be able =
to squeeze in a little bit more into my rare spare time... 8-)
  =20
  -G
    -----Original Message-----
    From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com =
[mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Thomas W. Humphrey
    Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 4:15 AM
    To: gtang@gtcons.com; Thomas W. Humphrey; slinkelist@nirvis.com; =
desai@meru.com; dbgreen@att.net
    Subject: Re: [slinkelist] CDJ and MP3's


    George:

    Thanks for your note.  Not being an access programmer, it did not =
immediately occur to me to go straight at the database, bypassing CDJ =
(although I did, believe it or not, realize that possibility late =
yesterday after I sent out my mail).

    I want to build up a coalition of programmers to do this project.  =
Are you interested in taking on some part?

    Tom.
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Tang, George=20
      To: Thomas W. Humphrey ; slinkelist@nirvis.com ; desai@meru.com ; =
dbgreen@att.net=20
      Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 6:11 PM
      Subject: RE: [slinkelist] CDJ and MP3's


      Your application(2) could be done right away without any =
modification to CDJ.  All the application need to do is to add entries =
to the Access database.
      =20
      -G
        -----Original Message-----
        From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com =
[mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Thomas W. Humphrey
        Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 2:37 PM
        To: slinkelist@nirvis.com; desai@meru.com; dbgreen@att.net
        Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ and MP3's


        I've been thinking about CDJ and MP3's recently.  Here's what I =
think the CDJ community needs:

        1. A slinkx application that will monitor the playback of a =
playlist by CDJ, and as each track starts and ends, use Windows sound =
recorder or another recorder to record the audio playing into the =
computer's sound card as .WAV files, and then use a MP3 encoder such as =
BLADEENC.EXE to convert the .wav files to MP3's and at the same time =
store ID3 information in each MP3, having at least the album and track =
names that were supplied by CDJ during the playback.  To make a more =
complete package, an ID3v2 tag could be created in the MP3, with CDJ's =
stored lyrics and image.

        2. A slinkx application that will scan an entire hard drive for =
every MP3 file and then automatically create audio file albums and =
tracks in CDJ, building albums from MP3's having the same album name.  =
Also, images and/or lyrics in ID3v2 MP3's would be transported over to =
separate files and linked into CDJ to display with those tracks.

        Application (2) is probably the most generally useful app, =
because a user that had an entire disk library ripped into another MP3 =
program such as RealJukebox, would be able to use application (2) to =
directly and automatically import all of those MP3's into CDJ (assuming =
they were ID3 tagged when created).

        Colby, unfortunately you will need to expand the CDJ automation =
interface to CDJ to facilitate application (2) - you will need to have =
CDJ commands and responses for adding audio file albums and tracks to =
albums, as well as to insert links to image files for particular albums =
or tracks, and insert lyrics.

        Any thoughts?

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Last year I built a Delphi App to =
record the=20
playlist on</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wave files and then converted the WAVE =
files to=20
MP3.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I first tried BLADEENC at 128k but =
found Audio=20
Catalyst</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with VBR at 128k produced a better =
sounding=20
result.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></FONT>----- Original Message ----- </DIV></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:gtang@gtcons.com" title=3Dgtang@gtcons.com>Tang, =
George</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:TWHumphrey@alum.mit.edu" =
title=3DTWHumphrey@alum.mit.edu>Thomas W.=20
  Humphrey</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:slinkelist@nirvis.com"=20
  title=3Dslinkelist@nirvis.com>slinkelist@nirvis.com</A> ; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:desai@meru.com" =
title=3Ddesai@meru.com>desai@meru.com</A> ; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:dbgreen@att.net" =
title=3Ddbgreen@att.net>dbgreen@att.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 16, 2000 =
11:24=20
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [slinkelist] CDJ =
and=20
  MP3's</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D590512213-16052000>Possibly... between my work and my personal =
projects,=20
  I might be able to squeeze in a little bit more into my rare spare =
time...=20
  8-)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D590512213-16052000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D590512213-16052000>-G</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com">slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com</=
A>=20
    [<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com">mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvi=
s.com</A>]<B>On=20
    Behalf Of</B> Thomas W. Humphrey<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 16, =
2000 4:15=20
    AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:gtang@gtcons.com">gtang@gtcons.com</A>;=20
    Thomas W. Humphrey; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:slinkelist@nirvis.com">slinkelist@nirvis.com</A>; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:desai@meru.com">desai@meru.com</A>; <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:dbgreen@att.net">dbgreen@att.net</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re:=20
    [slinkelist] CDJ and MP3's<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>George:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks for your note.&nbsp; Not being an access=20
    programmer, it did not immediately occur to me to go straight at the =

    database, bypassing CDJ (although I did, believe it or not, realize =
that=20
    possibility late yesterday after I sent out my mail).</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I want to build up a coalition of programmers to =
do this=20
    project.&nbsp; Are you interested in taking on some =
part?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Tom.</FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
    style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A href=3D"mailto:gtang@gtcons.com" title=3Dgtang@gtcons.com>Tang, =
George</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      href=3D"mailto:TWHumphrey@alum.mit.edu" =
title=3DTWHumphrey@alum.mit.edu>Thomas=20
      W. Humphrey</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:slinkelist@nirvis.com"=20
      title=3Dslinkelist@nirvis.com>slinkelist@nirvis.com</A> ; <A=20
      href=3D"mailto:desai@meru.com" =
title=3Ddesai@meru.com>desai@meru.com</A> ; <A=20
      href=3D"mailto:dbgreen@att.net" =
title=3Ddbgreen@att.net>dbgreen@att.net</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 15, 2000 =
6:11=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [slinkelist] =
CDJ and=20
      MP3's</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D820450722-15052000>Your application(2) could be done right =
away=20
      without any modification to CDJ.&nbsp; All the application need to =
do is=20
      to add entries to the Access database.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D820450722-15052000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D820450722-15052000>-G</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =

        size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com">slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com</=
A>=20
        [<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com">mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvi=
s.com</A>]<B>On=20
        Behalf Of</B> Thomas W. Humphrey<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 15, =
2000=20
        2:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
        href=3D"mailto:slinkelist@nirvis.com">slinkelist@nirvis.com</A>; =
<A=20
        href=3D"mailto:desai@meru.com">desai@meru.com</A>; <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:dbgreen@att.net">dbgreen@att.net</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
        [slinkelist] CDJ and MP3's<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I've been thinking about CDJ and MP3's =
recently.&nbsp;=20
        Here's what I think the CDJ community needs:</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>1. A slinkx&nbsp;application that will =
monitor the=20
        playback of a playlist by CDJ, and&nbsp;as each track starts and =
ends,=20
        use Windows sound recorder or another recorder to record the =
audio=20
        playing into the computer's sound card as .WAV files, and then =
use a MP3=20
        encoder such as BLADEENC.EXE to convert the .wav files to MP3's =
and at=20
        the same time store ID3 information in each MP3, having at least =
the=20
        album and track names that were supplied by CDJ during the=20
        playback.&nbsp; To make a more complete package, an ID3v2 tag =
could be=20
        created in the MP3, with CDJ's stored lyrics and =
image.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>2. A slinkx application that will scan an =
entire hard=20
        drive for every MP3 file and then automatically create audio =
file albums=20
        and tracks in CDJ, building albums from MP3's having the same =
album=20
        name.&nbsp; Also, images and/or lyrics in ID3v2 MP3's would be=20
        transported over to separate files and linked into CDJ to =
display with=20
        those tracks.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Application (2) is probably the most =
generally useful=20
        app, because a user that had an entire disk library ripped into =
another=20
        MP3 program such as RealJukebox, would be able to use =
application (2) to=20
        directly and automatically import all of those MP3's into CDJ =
(assuming=20
        they were ID3 tagged when created).</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Colby, unfortunately you will need to expand =
the CDJ=20
        automation interface to CDJ to facilitate application (2) - you =
will=20
        need to have CDJ commands and responses for adding audio file =
albums and=20
        tracks to albums, as well as to insert links to image files for=20
        particular albums or tracks, and insert lyrics.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Any=20
  =
thoughts?</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE=
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