From THarris@leasedirect.com Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:51:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:51:52 -0400 From: Harris, Terry THarris@leasedirect.com Subject: [slinkelist] Setting up SlinkX control on win98 Please take this with the tongue-in-cheek tone it which it is meant... You walk into a dark room with a laptop, grope around for a phone outlet, plug the laptop into the phone outlet, then turn on the lights? -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Laslo [mailto:dlaslo@engineer.com] Subject: [slinkelist] Setting up SlinkX control on win98 I'll second that comment (really cool). I have my Slink-e in the basement and I have a HomeLink(telephone) set up so I can just plug my laptop into any phone outlet and turn on the music, or the lights, etc ********************************************************************** The information transmitted via this e-mail is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ********************************************************************** From mikec@home-automation.co.uk Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:18:48 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:18:48 +0100 From: Mike Chapman mikec@home-automation.co.uk Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Xantech IR (simonmason@rcn.com) I have had some success with the Circuit diagrams on the web site, I am currently waiting for more information from Colby, if Nirvis are not going to provide a solution in the foreseeable future I might be prepared to front the development costs of a complete multi-zone Xantech IR Interface. I must stress that I too would much rather buy a solution and only go down the development route if there is no other choice. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com] Sent: 31 August 2000 14:33 To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: slinkelist digest, Vol 1 #367 - 2 msgs Send slinkelist mailing list submissions to slinkelist@nirvis.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to slinkelist-request@nirvis.com You can reach the person managing the list at slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of slinkelist digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Xantech IR (simonmason@rcn.com) 2. Setting up SlinkX control on win98 (Dennis Laslo) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: slinkelist@nirvis.com slinkelist@nirvis.com CC: simonmason@rcn.com From: simonmason@rcn.com Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:29:34 -0700 Subject: [slinkelist] Xantech IR It's time for my monthly request for someone to update us on the Xantech to slink-e IR conversion. The wiring on the nirvis web site is beyond me so I am looking for someone to develop something like this and sell it. I am willing to pay (as are others). ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Dennis Laslo" To: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:43:54 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [slinkelist] Setting up SlinkX control on win98 I'll second that comment (really cool). I have my Slink-e in the basement and I have a HomeLink(telephone) set up so I can just plug my laptop into any phone outlet and turn on the music, or the lights, etc -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:32 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: slinkelist digest, Vol 1 #366 - 2 msgs Send slinkelist mailing list submissions to slinkelist@nirvis.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to slinkelist-request@nirvis.com You can reach the person managing the list at slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of slinkelist digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Setting up SlinkX control on win98 (Tom Gillispie) 2. Novice question (Veciana Hiram) -- __--__-- Message: 1 From: Tom Gillispie To: "'slinkelist@nirvis.com'" Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:01:01 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Setting up SlinkX control on win98 Max - I've gotten this to work (on Win95). I remember the dcomcnfg message you mentioned. I had to switch the Win95 system to start using multiple user profiles - but I did all that from the Win95 Control Panel (I think its the "users" applet?). Its been a few months, and I'm using NT (2K) more and more, so I can't give you chapter and verse - but I know it works peer-to-peer - no NT server needed - which seemed to be your main question. By using dcomcnfg and the instructions you mentioned, you are setting "no security" around the slinkx COM component - so no NT server is needed to do the authentication. True, win95/98 can't do that authentication for DCOM, but it won't need to once you follow the instructions and "turn off" security around the slinkx component. Hope that helps. It is really cool when it works. It lets you run CDJ on your "desktop" with SlinkX running on your "server" someplace in the A/V closet or basement. Tom > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:20:57 -0700 > From: max@netscape.com (Mike Macgirvin) > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] Setting up SlinkX control on win98 > > > I've been following the instructions to set up slinkX as a shared DCOM > control on win98. When I try to enable it however, the first warning > which comes up (from dcomcnfg) says I need to be using "user" based > sharing control rather than "share" based (which I've been using > previously). I've tried to do this, but am unable to setup any user > accounts to share (user database unavailable, try again later). I'm > trying to use the user manager in the w98 machine to set up the > accounts, and point to the win98 machine as the user manager. > > It seems likely that I need an NT domain controller on the > local net to > manage the accounts, as win98 probably doesn't have the necessary OS > hooks to provide authentication services beyond allowing you > to let two > or more people share the box with different profiles. > > Can somebody either confirm this or point me to how to configure > user-based sharing (and get DCOM working) on win98 without > requiring an > NT server? > > > -- __--__-- -- __--__-- Message: 2 From: "Veciana Hiram" To: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:00:17 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [slinkelist] Novice question I have just started looking into controlling a CD-changer with a PC and was wondering if one of the "fancy" serial-to-miniplug cables (e.g., s-linke or s-converter) is required to use the PC software. I have a basic serial-to-miniplug cable (not even sure what piece of equipment it came with), and was wondering what would happen if I tried to use CDJ or DiscJockey with it. Thanks for any help. -- __--__-- _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist End of slinkelist Digest --__--__-- _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist End of slinkelist Digest From cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Sat, 2 Sep 2000 10:46:58 -0700 Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 10:46:58 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Subject: [slinkelist] Using Windows 95 as a DCOM Server Host fyi, i found this in http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q196/2/08.ASP colby Using Windows 95 as a DCOM Server Host Windows 95 can be a DCOM server host with the following caveats: There is no launch capability, which means the DCOM server process must already be running for a client to connect to it. If secure connections are needed, then the server (and in the case of callbacks, the client) must have user-level access control with the name of a security provider set. The registry value "EnableRemoteConnect" must be set to "Y." DCOM98 has been tested most extensively using the Windows NT Domain security provider. You may encounter problems using other security providers. To establish user-level access control, you must have FILESEC.VXD installed. This is generally installed on Windows 95 machines by installing File and Print Sharing. To enable user-level access control, launch the Network control panel applet, choose the "Access Control" tab, select the box marked "User-level access control," and enter the name of your security domain. This may affect the way you currently share directories on the network from your computer; see the Online documentation for details. If you do not have an "Access Control" tab in your network configuration control panel, you need to install a network client service. See the "Network clients, setting up" Help topic in the Online Help for information on installing a network client. From ronsheppard@psn.net Sun, 03 Sep 2000 00:48:03 -0700 Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 00:48:03 -0700 From: Ron Sheppard ronsheppard@psn.net Subject: [slinkelist] Port vs. Bus Are a port and a bus on a slink-e the same thing? From dlaslo@engineer.com Mon, 4 Sep 2000 07:04:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 07:04:43 -0400 From: Dennis Laslo dlaslo@engineer.com Subject: [slinkelist] Recent CDJ problems (could not post this on the BBS today...) I have a CX300 and 350 and sometimes the CD hardware setup is wrong (not sure how this happens, probably me pushing a button somewhere- but it happened today). CDJ picks up the master as a 200 disk instead of a 300 disk. I looked at the hardware and sure enough, the toggle for Control A vs Contol A II was wrong. The Sony manual is sparse on this setting. When it's wrong...I get disk errors (maybe from the player?) I, too have had some problems with the recent CDJ but I hestitated to join in the discussion since I wasn't sure if the hardware setup was the problem (and perhaps it was the root cause). But it may help if you have the same problem.....does CDJ report your player correctly (model number and number of CD's capacity???)This all started after I added a CD and started a library search. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com] Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 9:31 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: slinkelist digest, Vol 1 #369 - 2 msgs Send slinkelist mailing list submissions to slinkelist@nirvis.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to slinkelist-request@nirvis.com You can reach the person managing the list at slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of slinkelist digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Using Windows 95 as a DCOM Server Host (Colby Boles) 2. Port vs. Bus (Ron Sheppard) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Colby Boles" To: "Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com" Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 10:46:58 -0700 charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [slinkelist] Using Windows 95 as a DCOM Server Host fyi, i found this in http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q196/2/08.ASP colby Using Windows 95 as a DCOM Server Host Windows 95 can be a DCOM server host with the following caveats: There is no launch capability, which means the DCOM server process must already be running for a client to connect to it. If secure connections are needed, then the server (and in the case of callbacks, the client) must have user-level access control with the name of a security provider set. The registry value "EnableRemoteConnect" must be set to "Y." DCOM98 has been tested most extensively using the Windows NT Domain security provider. You may encounter problems using other security providers. To establish user-level access control, you must have FILESEC.VXD installed. This is generally installed on Windows 95 machines by installing File and Print Sharing. To enable user-level access control, launch the Network control panel applet, choose the "Access Control" tab, select the box marked "User-level access control," and enter the name of your security domain. This may affect the way you currently share directories on the network from your computer; see the Online documentation for details. If you do not have an "Access Control" tab in your network configuration control panel, you need to install a network client service. See the "Network clients, setting up" Help topic in the Online Help for information on installing a network client. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 00:48:03 -0700 From: Ron Sheppard To: Subject: [slinkelist] Port vs. Bus Are a port and a bus on a slink-e the same thing? --__--__-- _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist End of slinkelist Digest From teepe@gmx.net Mon, 4 Sep 2000 20:52:06 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 20:52:06 +0200 From: Gerd Teepe teepe@gmx.net Subject: [slinkelist] My cdj stops Hi all ! Now I have a new problem !! My cdj stop my players very often and take the next cd from the playlist ! I use cdj for a long time now and this problem is new.... I use win 2000 and 4 x sony CDP - CX 350 changer !! Please help I have the log: Grtx. 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cdslr012:unloading cdslr002:stop cdslr002:stop cdsls022:mode cdsls032:mode cdslr022:mode[00C0004400] cdslr032:mode[00C000F700] cdsls002:mode cdsls012:mode cdslr002:mode[0040000400] cdslr012:mode[0240000101] cdsls022:mode cdsls032:mode cdslr022:mode[00C0004400] cdslr032:mode[00C000F700] From will@airmail.net Mon, 04 Sep 2000 15:06:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 15:06:19 -0500 From: William Hollingworth will@airmail.net Subject: [slinkelist] MiniDisc Manager update - beta testers wanted I'm working on an update to MiniDisc Manager to fix the CDJ Playlist Recorder problems that have appeared with the newer versions of CDJ. If you are interested in helping to test this update, please send me an email. Will From jns@interaccess.com Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:31:15 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:31:15 -0500 From: John N Shankland jns@interaccess.com Subject: [slinkelist] Party GUI doesn't run I am trying to run the version dated 7/30/00 Runtime error 5 invalid procedure......... Any suggestions. I am successfully running 4/24/00 version from a different directory. Thanks John Shankland From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:18:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:18:06 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: [slinke-bbs] Looking for non-resampling, 44.1 soundcard... You might look at the Voyetra Montego II. It runs fine under Win2K. Haven't tried the TOSLINK yet though. --Mike -----Original Message----- From: www-data [mailto:www-data@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of slinke-bbs-owner@nirvis.com Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:53 PM To: slinke-notify@nirvis.com Subject: [slinke-bbs] Looking for non-resampling, 44.1 soundcard... New message posted on Slink-e / CDJ Discussion Board at . From: Brooks Talley Reply at: I'm still trying to find an affordable (<$125) soundcard that will work on Windows 2000, that has digital out (preferably toslink but I'll take coax), and which has native 44.1khz support so it won't resample my mp3's. Aynone? -b From cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:37:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:37:28 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ Version Hi I've put a new version of CDJ on the site. I'd like to get some feedback from those experiencing playlist problems as to if this version fixes those problems. colby Here's some bits from the revision logs as to the changes: CDJ 9/07/00 Improved multiple selection in the UI. Screen no longer redraws for each item selected. Lyrics are now back online! Added a keywords tab which allows you to assign keywords to albums and tracks. You can select multiple items at once and assign keywords to them. A similar control for locating keywords in a search will follow. Added a details tab which shows all fields for the selected item. You may edit some of the fields. Window banners show which window has the focus. Changed initial sort orders of the lists to make more sense. Added a timer device to CDJ / Slinkeserv which allows flexible timed event generation. See the Timer Device for details. Changed the way playlist / selection info is stored internally - this should improve reliability in the long run. SLINKESERV 9/07/00 Added support for persistent connections for the command line interface Added a command line interface which allows sending device commands from a MS-DOS prompt. See Command Line Interface for details. Changed the signal matching algorithm slightly to improve matching of the final "bit". From PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com Fri, 8 Sep 2000 21:04:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 21:04:26 -0400 From: PaulMmn PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] Party GUI doesn't run >Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:19:54 -0400 >To: >From: PaulMmn >Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Party GUI doesn't run >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >If I remember correctly, sometime this past Summer the data access >method was changed in CDJ; PartyGui had to change as well. > >If you're not current with both programs this could be the problem >(especially if the 4/24 version runs correctly). > >--Paul E Musselman >PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com > > > >>I am trying to run the version dated 7/30/00 >> >>Runtime error 5 invalid procedure......... >> >>Any suggestions. >> >>I am successfully running 4/24/00 version from a different directory. >> >>Thanks >> >> >>John Shankland >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >>http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From teepe@gmx.net Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:39:17 +0200 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:39:17 +0200 From: Gerd Teepe teepe@gmx.net Subject: [slinkelist] NEW CDJ Version The new version has the skipping problem too. If I go to the album window and take a cd and click suffle,explode... then cdj crash ! If I have some songs in the playlist and I go to the album window to explode a disc then the cd appears in the playlist but only the whole CD and not the songs !! I use Windows 2000 !! Grtx. Gerd From Mark.Pocock@glenayre.com Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:03:30 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:03:30 -0700 From: Pocock, Mark Mark.Pocock@glenayre.com Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ Version & Scrambled artist assignments in model 450 playe r An interesting anomoly in the latest version - previous version correctly identified my players as a model 400 and a model 450. The new version identified the model 400, but identified the model 450 as a 300/333/350 - although appears to recognize that it supports 400 disks. I also discovered last night that the artist assignments in the model 450 CD Player itself (not CDJ) had gotten scrambled - ie the artists had been randomly re-assigned to the wrong disks. As all equipment is new, I'm not sure if this is a problem with the CD player, or as a result of CDJ sending the wrong codes to the player because it now thinks it is a model 300/333/350. Any comments? Regards Mark From spaziano@mediaone.net Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:07:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:07:28 -0400 From: Art & Carol Spaziano spaziano@mediaone.net Subject: [slinkelist] slinkelist -- confirmation of subscription -- request 448672 confirm 448672 From cjrose@mediaone.net Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:06:09 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:06:09 -0400 From: Carl J. Rose cjrose@mediaone.net Subject: [slinkelist] Audio Cards for PC This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C01D0E.09F0D660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Slinker's, I made the unfortunate mistake of buying a SB Live Platinum card for my = latest computer cause I wanted digital and analog line out's to hook in = to audio system. =20 Well, I have found out that the digital is not a optical out but is a = "spdif" (can somebody give me a quick lesson on this?) and the analog = "line out" is misnamed 'cause it is controlled by the system volume and = it is the only out for front speakers on the card! Effectively, I have = neither of the line outs I desired when I ponied up the cash for the = card. I have found that they do offer an optional side card to give optical = out that is preferred for audio. However, I really don't want to give these people more money to get = still only partially what I want. What normal, low cost cards will give = me at least a real analog line out??? Thanks, carl ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C01D0E.09F0D660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Slinker's,
 
I made the unfortunate mistake of = buying a SB Live=20 Platinum card for my latest computer cause I wanted digital and analog = line=20 out's to hook in to audio system. 
 
Well, I have found out that  the = digital is=20 not a optical out but is a "spdif" (can somebody give me a quick lesson = on=20 this?) and the analog "line out" is misnamed  'cause it is = controlled by=20 the system volume and it is the only out for front speakers on the = card! =20 Effectively, I have neither of the line outs I desired when I ponied up = the cash=20 for the card.
 
I have found that they do offer an = optional side=20 card to give optical out that is preferred for audio.
 
However, I really don't want to give = these people=20 more money to get still only partially what I want.  What normal, = low cost=20 cards will give me at least a real analog line out???
 
Thanks, carl
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C01D0E.09F0D660-- From cjrose@mediaone.net Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:15:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:15:30 -0400 From: Carl J. Rose cjrose@mediaone.net Subject: [slinkelist] Sony ES 333 device file This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C01D0F.57E64E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have been able to get other devices working with slinke, but my Sony = 333 ES receiver eludes me! I am currently using the device with an IR = file generated with EZ Learn. Can somebody please email me a slinke device file using Slinke codes to = run this receiver. I would be forever indebted!!! TIA, carl ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C01D0F.57E64E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
I have been able to get other devices = working with=20 slinke, but my  Sony 333 ES receiver eludes me!  I am = currently using=20 the device with an IR file generated with EZ Learn.
 
Can somebody please email me a slinke = device file=20 using Slinke  codes to run this receiver.  I would be forever=20 indebted!!!
 
TIA, carl
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C01D0F.57E64E80-- From Office@RodneyFox.com Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:17:25 +1000 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:17:25 +1000 From: Office at RodneyFox Office@RodneyFox.com Subject: [slinkelist] Big Problems - ON AIR! Hello List, I recently purchased 4 Sony 450's. PROBLEM NO 1. Player 1 slot 240 was never recognised by either the player or CDJ. The turntable just spins backwards and forwards. Any ideas? PROBLEM NO 2. I start a play list, everything seems to happily happening, and then... CDJ does its job (by itself) and the player that is playing just does it's job. It plays and plays and eventually ends one CD and then plays another and another and so on. I thought this problem may be resolved by purchasing a UPS unit. So I purchased 2, one for the players and one for the 4 CD players and the slink box thingie. No it didn't fix problem. PROBLEM NO 3. I had to move the computer and equipment and inadvertantly put the slink lead into com 1 (previously com 2). No problems, saw the problem, fixed connection and refired up the equipment. But for some reason, disc 400 in player 4 is greyed out and is skipped each time it comes up in the list. CONCLUSION. The version I am using is 140800. I'm a bit reluctant to use a latter version based on the problems that may arise in a new version. BIG HELP PLEASE, RODNEY. From cboles@nirvis.com Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:26:11 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:26:11 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ Version & Scrambled artist assignments in model 450 player The identification is not a problem. CDJ just didn't receive the player text string and was using it's best guess text (which hasn't been updated since the 400's were released - it is now). It still knows that it is a 400 disc unit. I don't know anything about the artist info CDJ is not doing anything that I know of to manipulate this. Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Pocock, Mark > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 3:04 PM > To: 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' > Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ Version & Scrambled artist assignments in > model 450 player > > > An interesting anomoly in the latest version - previous version correctly > identified my players as a model 400 and a model 450. The new version > identified the model 400, but identified the model 450 as a 300/333/350 - > although appears to recognize that it supports 400 disks. > > I also discovered last night that the artist assignments in the > model 450 CD > Player itself (not CDJ) had gotten scrambled - ie the artists had been > randomly re-assigned to the wrong disks. As all equipment is new, I'm not > sure if this is a problem with the CD player, or as a result of > CDJ sending > the wrong codes to the player because it now thinks it is a model > 300/333/350. Any comments? > > Regards > > Mark > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:56:23 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:56:23 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ Version I've put a new version of CDJ on the site. I think I have identified a source of playlist skipping and have fixed it. I've also fixed some other recently mentioned bugs relating to MP3 albums. The new version has both get and submit support for lyrics. The lyrics server at lyrics.lipetsk.ru is free and needs your support to continue operating that way. Please use the submit lyrics feature (you can select you whole library) to upload any lyrics you may already have to the site so that it can grow. Also try to pay a visit to their home page now and then to keep their advertisers happy. Here's the revision log: 9/14/00 Fix bug which causes playlist items to be skipped, repeated, and potential crashes. Fix BugBuddy to prevent resource leak in Win98 when activity is logged. Fix drag and drop of MP3s Added lyrics banner with GET, SUBMIT, and website hyperlink - please contribute all lyrics you may have by using Library | Select All and then SUBMIT. Fix keyword assignment bug during library load. Fix saving of settings in Rating View Add proper default descriptions of 400-disc models. Add algorithm to support CX270/90ES models which have non-standard binary track mode[ ] reporting without affect units with std. reporting. From flavia@yahoo.com Thu, 14 Sep 2000 22:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 22:55:21 -0700 (PDT) From: f t flavia@yahoo.com Subject: [slinkelist] Party GUI doesn't run I have the same problem run time error 5. I'm working on Win2000 and I installed alll new releases from CDJ. No clue why it is not working. The older version of Party Gui ran perfectly, sadly I uninstalled it does anybody got it and could send it to me. Thanks Oliver --- PaulMmn wrote: > >Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:19:54 -0400 > >To: > >From: PaulMmn > >Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Party GUI doesn't run > >Cc: > >Bcc: > >X-Attachments: > > > >If I remember correctly, sometime this past Summer > the data access > >method was changed in CDJ; PartyGui had to change > as well. > > > >If you're not current with both programs this could > be the problem > >(especially if the 4/24 version runs correctly). > > > >--Paul E Musselman > >PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com > > > > > > > >>I am trying to run the version dated 7/30/00 > >> > >>Runtime error 5 invalid procedure......... > >> > >>Any suggestions. > >> > >>I am successfully running 4/24/00 version from a > different directory. > >> > >>Thanks > >> > >> > >>John Shankland > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >>http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From jns@interaccess.com Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:05:37 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:05:37 -0500 From: John N Shankland jns@interaccess.com Subject: [slinkelist] Party GUI doesn't run This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C01EFC.7EAC8040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > I have the same problem run time error 5. I'm working > on Win2000 and I installed alll new releases from CDJ. > No clue why it is not working. 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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C01EFC.7EAC8040-- From cboles@nirvis.com Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:55:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:55:42 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ Version i'll take a look... colby > -----Original Message----- > From: William Hollingworth [mailto:will@airmail.net] > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 8:37 AM > To: Colby Boles > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] New CDJ Version > > > Colby > > This version breaks the CDJ Playlist Recorder function in > MiniDisc Manager. > For some reason it is unable to read the CDJ playlist contents at all, > other than the number of tracks. I haven't bothered to look into exactly > why this is happening. > > Is this something you are going to look at and fix on your side, > or is this > a permanent change that has been made and I must adapt my software work > around it? > > Will > > > At 01:56 PM 9/14/2000 -0700, you wrote: > >I've put a new version of CDJ on the site. I think I have identified a > >source of playlist skipping and have fixed it. I've also fixed some other > >recently mentioned bugs relating to MP3 albums. The new version > has both get > >and submit support for lyrics. The lyrics server at lyrics.lipetsk.ru is > >free and needs your support to continue operating that way. > Please use the > >submit lyrics feature (you can select you whole library) to upload any > >lyrics you may already have to the site so that it can grow. > Also try to pay > >a visit to their home page now and then to keep their advertisers happy. > > > >Here's the revision log: > > > >9/14/00 > >Fix bug which causes playlist items to be skipped, repeated, and > potential > >crashes. > >Fix BugBuddy to prevent resource leak in Win98 when activity is logged. > >Fix drag and drop of MP3s > >Added lyrics banner with GET, SUBMIT, and website hyperlink - please > >contribute all lyrics you may have by using Library | Select All and then > >SUBMIT. > >Fix keyword assignment bug during library load. > >Fix saving of settings in Rating View > >Add proper default descriptions of 400-disc models. > >Add algorithm to support CX270/90ES models which have non-standard binary > >track mode[ ] reporting without affect units with std. reporting. > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > From cboles@nirvis.com Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:01:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:01:09 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Slink-e problems with external receiver modules 1. The Slink-e uses data-type cables which are wired straight through. Telephone cables cross wires internally. You can get data-type cables at Radio Shack. 2. Once you have attached an external receiver, you need to run Slinkeserv and go to View | Settings. From there you need to click on the red X which corresponds to the receiver input you are connected to and enable it. Then choose Save to RAM and EEPROM, then Exit. Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Max Spring > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 9:34 PM > To: help@nirvis.com; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] Slink-e problems with external receiver modules > > > I have problems in getting an external receiver module to work with the > Slink-e: > > Most of my telephone cables don't work at all. I guess either > because they > don't have 4 conductors, or they have it in the wrong order. > > By using one particular cable (presumably the one I got with the > Slink-e months > ago) shows some sign of life: Whenever I plugin or unplug a > receiver module, > the control LED flashes. Also when I send IR signals to that module, the > control LED flashes, too. > > However, the Slink-e doesn't seem to notice anything of it. > Whereas, using the > build-in IR receiver works great. > > I'm confused. I'd appreciate if someone could help me further. > > Regards, > -Max > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From teepe@gmx.net Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:50:11 +0200 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:50:11 +0200 From: Gerd Teepe teepe@gmx.net Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ Hi all ! The new CDJ crash my Win2K if I take in the album window a CD and click shuffle and explode... ! If a CD is in the playlist then the explode funktion from the album window won´t work ! Grtx. Gerd From cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Sat, 16 Sep 2000 01:57:00 -0700 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 01:57:00 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ Version I've put yet another version of CDJ on the site. This one fixes some problems with MP3s and the Add/Explode/Shuffle/Optimize feature. colby 9/16/00 Fixed Add/Explode/Shuffle/Optimize option Fixed bug in optimize which can cause crashes 9/15/00 Fixed bug in playing whole MP3 albums Fixed bug in keywords where promoting a keyword to the whole album didn't remove it from the tracks. Changed helper banners on many windows to show what is selected From AndyStein@aol.com Sat, 16 Sep 2000 14:05:26 EDT Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 14:05:26 EDT From: AndyStein@aol.com AndyStein@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] Playlist Problems I noticated my 9/8/00 version of CDJ has problems playing songs in the middle of a playlist. It will play five to 30 seconds from a song and then skip to the next. The songs toward the beginning and toward the end of the playlist seem to work O.K. Andrew In a message dated 9/16/00 1:59:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU writes: << I've put yet another version of CDJ on the site. This one fixes some problems with MP3s and the Add/Explode/Shuffle/Optimize feature. colby 9/16/00 Fixed Add/Explode/Shuffle/Optimize option Fixed bug in optimize which can cause crashes 9/15/00 Fixed bug in playing whole MP3 albums Fixed bug in keywords where promoting a keyword to the whole album didn't remove it from the tracks. Changed helper banners on many windows to show what is selected >> From cboles@nirvis.com Sat, 16 Sep 2000 20:18:49 -0700 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 20:18:49 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Playlist Problems right. that's been fixed. colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of AndyStein@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 11:05 AM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] Playlist Problems > > > I noticated my 9/8/00 version of CDJ has problems playing > songs in the > middle of a playlist. It will play five to 30 seconds from a > song and then > skip to the next. The songs toward the beginning and toward the > end of the > playlist seem to work O.K. > > > Andrew > > > In a message dated 9/16/00 1:59:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU writes: > > << I've put yet another version of CDJ on the site. This one fixes some > problems with MP3s and the Add/Explode/Shuffle/Optimize feature. > > colby > > 9/16/00 > > Fixed Add/Explode/Shuffle/Optimize option > > Fixed bug in optimize which can cause crashes > > > 9/15/00 > > Fixed bug in playing whole MP3 albums > > Fixed bug in keywords where promoting a keyword to the whole album didn't > remove it from the tracks. > > Changed helper banners on many windows to show what is selected > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From nigelh@chinch.demon.co.uk Sun, 17 Sep 2000 13:52:09 +0100 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 13:52:09 +0100 From: Nigel Hicks nigelh@chinch.demon.co.uk Subject: [slinkelist] CDP-CX450 losing contact with CDJ Hi, I have just changed from a couple of 200 players (which worked fine with slinke and CDJ) to a CDP-CX450.=20 CDJ mostly seems to work fine but when playing randomly it seems to lose connection with the player after 15 or so minutes requiring me to restart CDJ. I am using the latest (09/16) CDJ and I attach the slinke data log below. Anyone any ideas? TIA, _Nigel ...=20 cdsls002:mode=20 cdslr005a:mode[01C0000103]=20 cdsls002:timecode_on=20 cdsls002:timecode_on=20 cdslr002:time[03010304]=20 cdslr002:time[03010305]=20 cdslr002:time[03010306]=20 cdslr002:time[03010307]=20 cdslr002:time[03010308]=20 cdslr005a:playing[01040357]=20 cdjr:playlist_pointer[4] nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 cdjr:playlist_pointer[4] nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 cdjr:playlist_pointer[4] nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 cdjr:playlist_pointer[4] nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 cdjr:library_save_start cdjr:library_save_end nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 cdjr:playlist_pointer[4] nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 cdjr:playlist_pointer[4] nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 cdjr:playlist_pointer[4] nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 cdjr:playlist_stop nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 nomatch:ir0(sony)[]=20 **repeats from now on** From cboles@nirvis.com Sun, 17 Sep 2000 09:45:07 -0700 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 09:45:07 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDP-CX450 losing contact with CDJ My first guess is that the player or remote is emitting lots of IR which may be preoccupying the slinke / slinke software. Try disabling / covering the Slink-e IR receiver. Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Nigel Hicks > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 5:52 AM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] CDP-CX450 losing contact with CDJ > > > Hi, > I have just changed from a couple of 200 players (which worked fine > with slinke and CDJ) to a CDP-CX450. > CDJ mostly seems to work fine but when playing randomly it seems to > lose connection with the player after 15 or so minutes requiring me to > restart CDJ. I am using the latest (09/16) CDJ and I attach the slinke > data log below. > > Anyone any ideas? > TIA, _Nigel > > ... > cdsls002:mode > cdslr005a:mode[01C0000103] > cdsls002:timecode_on > cdsls002:timecode_on > cdslr002:time[03010304] > cdslr002:time[03010305] > cdslr002:time[03010306] > cdslr002:time[03010307] > cdslr002:time[03010308] > cdslr005a:playing[01040357] > cdjr:playlist_pointer[4] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > cdjr:playlist_pointer[4] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > cdjr:playlist_pointer[4] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > cdjr:playlist_pointer[4] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > cdjr:library_save_start > cdjr:library_save_end > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > cdjr:playlist_pointer[4] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > cdjr:playlist_pointer[4] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > cdjr:playlist_pointer[4] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > cdjr:playlist_stop > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > nomatch:ir0(sony)[] > **repeats from now on** > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From davidpauljohn@email.msn.com Sun, 17 Sep 2000 15:09:49 -0400 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 15:09:49 -0400 From: davidpauljohn davidpauljohn@email.msn.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) In trying to install some of the user designed software (partygui, and cd covers) an error message concerning the absence of a dll file (MSVBVM60.DLL) prevents installation. 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From cboles@nirvis.com Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:15:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:15:22 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) sounds like sysupdate.exe or the newer full install was never done on your computer. colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of davidpauljohn > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 12:10 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) > > > In trying to install some of the user designed software (partygui, and cd > covers) an error message concerning the absence of a dll file > (MSVBVM60.DLL) > prevents installation. Any suggestions? > -David > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From neil@neils.net Wed, 20 Sep 2000 22:47:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 22:47:24 -0400 From: Neil Cunningham neil@neils.net Subject: [slinkelist] Is it possible to get Device ID? Is it possible to get the Device ID (for use in the mci control) of a cd in a Sony changer? If so, I would appreciate and sample vb code you might have. Thanks! Neil From cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:00:20 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:00:20 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Subject: FW: [slinkelist] (no subject) > Hi Colby !! > > At first thank you for the new cdj version !! > I have found two mistakes ! > > > 1. If I go to the album window and explode and optimize the > disks, than the > play > order in the list is not right ! The playing order is 12112212112212 for > example ! > The optimize function has changed to minimize delay between songs over the entire playlist, sometimes it needs to play songs from the same album to accomplish this. I may add an extra option to prioritize alternation over global delay minimization later. > 2. If I search an artist, track or something and I take the track > with drag > and drop to the playlist > then a wrong track appeares in the playlist ! > Sorry about that - it has already been fixed for the next release. It only happens if you have it sorted. Colby > From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:31:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:31:12 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) Does this apply to randomization from a search list too? I've seen it happen a few times. --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Colby Boles > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:00 PM > To: Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com > Subject: FW: [slinkelist] (no subject) > > > > > > Hi Colby !! > > > > At first thank you for the new cdj version !! > > I have found two mistakes ! > > > > > > 1. If I go to the album window and explode and optimize the > > disks, than the > > play > > order in the list is not right ! The playing order is 12112212112212 for > > example ! > > > > The optimize function has changed to minimize delay between songs over the > entire playlist, sometimes it needs to play songs from the same album to > accomplish this. I may add an extra option to prioritize alternation over > global delay minimization later. > > > 2. If I search an artist, track or something and I take the track > > with drag > > and drop to the playlist > > then a wrong track appeares in the playlist ! > > > > Sorry about that - it has already been fixed for the next release. It only > happens if you have it sorted. > > Colby > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From cboles@nirvis.com Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:47:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:47:41 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) yes. i tweaked it a bit more for the next release so that it will try to alternate if possible so that it behaves a bit better. Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Kropp [mailto:mkropp@cathouse.mv.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 12:31 PM > To: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] (no subject) > > > Does this apply to randomization from a search list too? I've seen it > happen a few times. > > --Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Colby Boles > > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:00 PM > > To: Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com > > Subject: FW: [slinkelist] (no subject) > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Colby !! > > > > > > At first thank you for the new cdj version !! > > > I have found two mistakes ! > > > > > > > > > 1. If I go to the album window and explode and optimize the > > > disks, than the > > > play > > > order in the list is not right ! The playing order is > 12112212112212 for > > > example ! > > > > > > > The optimize function has changed to minimize delay between > songs over the > > entire playlist, sometimes it needs to play songs from the same album to > > accomplish this. I may add an extra option to prioritize > alternation over > > global delay minimization later. > > > > > 2. If I search an artist, track or something and I take the track > > > with drag > > > and drop to the playlist > > > then a wrong track appeares in the playlist ! > > > > > > > Sorry about that - it has already been fixed for the next > release. It only > > happens if you have it sorted. > > > > Colby > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > From pfaffman@relaxpc.com Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:08:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:08:44 -0500 From: Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) With all this talk about search lists & such, this may be a good time to do this. I've asked before, but either you've never stuck this in, or I just don't know how to do it. I'd like to be listening on random and when a song from a long-forgotten album comes on be able to push a button on the remote and have the entire album play. It seems to me that if I could "explode" a single track into all the tracks of that album, it'd be easy to map a event to that like: vcr:enter {playlist_explode} Perhaps there's a way to do this already that I just don't understand. If there is a way to do this already, I'd love to see a map file that'd do this for me. Thanks. -- Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:47:41 -0700, "Colby Boles" said: > yes. i tweaked it a bit more for the next release so that it will try to > alternate if possible so that it behaves a bit better. > Colby >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mike Kropp [mailto:mkropp@cathouse.mv.com] >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 12:31 PM >> To: Colby Boles; Slink-e List >> Subject: RE: [slinkelist] (no subject) >> >> >> Does this apply to randomization from a search list too? I've seen it >> happen a few times. >> >> --Mike >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On >> > Behalf Of Colby Boles >> > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:00 PM >> > To: Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com >> > Subject: FW: [slinkelist] (no subject) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi Colby !! >> > > >> > > At first thank you for the new cdj version !! >> > > I have found two mistakes ! >> > > >> > > >> > > 1. If I go to the album window and explode and optimize the >> > > disks, than the >> > > play >> > > order in the list is not right ! The playing order is >> 12112212112212 for >> > > example ! >> > > >> > >> > The optimize function has changed to minimize delay between >> songs over the >> > entire playlist, sometimes it needs to play songs from the same album to >> > accomplish this. I may add an extra option to prioritize >> alternation over >> > global delay minimization later. >> > >> > > 2. If I search an artist, track or something and I take the track >> > > with drag >> > > and drop to the playlist >> > > then a wrong track appeares in the playlist ! >> > > >> > >> > Sorry about that - it has already been fixed for the next >> release. It only >> > happens if you have it sorted. >> > >> > Colby >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >> > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist >> > >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From cboles@nirvis.com Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:11:54 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:11:54 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) just use cdj:playlist_explode[cur] in your map entry and you'll get just what you want. colby > -----Original Message----- > From: Jay Pfaffman [mailto:pfaffman@relaxpc.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:09 PM > To: cboles@nirvis.com > Cc: SlinkE List > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] (no subject) > > > With all this talk about search lists & such, this may be a good time > to do this. I've asked before, but either you've never stuck this in, > or I just don't know how to do it. > > I'd like to be listening on random and when a song from a > long-forgotten album comes on be able to push a button on the remote > and have the entire album play. It seems to me that if I could > "explode" a single track into all the tracks of that album, it'd be > easy to map a event to that like: > > vcr:enter {playlist_explode} > > Perhaps there's a way to do this already that I just don't > understand. If there is a way to do this already, I'd love to see a > map file that'd do this for me. > > Thanks. > > -- > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:47:41 -0700, "Colby Boles" > said: > > > yes. i tweaked it a bit more for the next release so that it will try to > > alternate if possible so that it behaves a bit better. > > > Colby > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Mike Kropp [mailto:mkropp@cathouse.mv.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 12:31 PM > >> To: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > >> Subject: RE: [slinkelist] (no subject) > >> > >> > >> Does this apply to randomization from a search list too? I've seen it > >> happen a few times. > >> > >> --Mike > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > >> > Behalf Of Colby Boles > >> > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:00 PM > >> > To: Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com > >> > Subject: FW: [slinkelist] (no subject) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Hi Colby !! > >> > > > >> > > At first thank you for the new cdj version !! > >> > > I have found two mistakes ! > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > 1. If I go to the album window and explode and optimize the > >> > > disks, than the > >> > > play > >> > > order in the list is not right ! The playing order is > >> 12112212112212 for > >> > > example ! > >> > > > >> > > >> > The optimize function has changed to minimize delay between > >> songs over the > >> > entire playlist, sometimes it needs to play songs from the > same album to > >> > accomplish this. I may add an extra option to prioritize > >> alternation over > >> > global delay minimization later. > >> > > >> > > 2. If I search an artist, track or something and I take the track > >> > > with drag > >> > > and drop to the playlist > >> > > then a wrong track appeares in the playlist ! > >> > > > >> > > >> > Sorry about that - it has already been fixed for the next > >> release. It only > >> > happens if you have it sorted. > >> > > >> > Colby > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >> > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > From gtang@gtcons.com Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:49:14 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:49:14 -0700 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] New Requests Hi Colby, Since you're already working on the next release, I was wondering if you could add the following features: A slider to indicate song playing position and allows one to slide and cue it to a certain point for MP3's. Cue and review buttons for both MP3's and CD Changers. These are the typical FF and Rev buttons that will either do playback of the current song in higher speed or skips a few seconds at a time. An extra field in the database to store the starting point of a song. So if you want to skip a long intro, you can indicate where to start the song. Then when CDJ plays that song, it'll start at the indicated starting point rather from the beginning. I know it should be easy for MP3's to do that, but not sure how well you can tell the CD changers to do that. Well, there's my wishlist for the time being. Thanks for doing a great job on CDJ. Kudos for ya. -George Tang From jamie.cansdale@familiar.co.uk Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:29:16 +0100 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:29:16 +0100 From: Jamie Cansdale jamie.cansdale@familiar.co.uk Subject: [slinkelist] Jukebox Server Hi folks, I have recently had an ASDL internet connection installed at home. All the hardware is now in place to access my CD collection from work. Has anyone come up with a software solution that uses the Slink-e? Would it be possible to write an HTTP front end for CDJ? I could then use a Shoutcast server and CDJ to get what I want. It would be a case of connecting to my Shoutcast server and controlling CDJ over the web. I could even be naughty and make my jukebox accessible to the rest of the world... This is such an obvious idea I'd be surprised if it hasn't been done! Yours, Jamie. From shawn@sboyle.com Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:51:14 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:51:14 -0400 From: Shawn Boyle shawn@sboyle.com Subject: [slinkelist] New Requests I have a couple of features I could add to that list. ;] 1. It'd be nice to have CDJ generate an event for the current position of an MP3. Kind of like the slink messages that the CD players send when they're playing a CD. I use these messages to display the time remaining on my TV and LCD displays. But I can't do that for MP3s. 2. I'm not sure how difficult this is, but would it be possible to be able to select which sound card CDJ uses to play MP3. This way you could play MP3 on a sound card hooked up to your amp, and still get regular windows sounds from the speakers connected to the computer. Thanks Colby, for the great software. -Shawn -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Tang, George Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:49 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] New Requests Hi Colby, Since you're already working on the next release, I was wondering if you could add the following features: A slider to indicate song playing position and allows one to slide and cue it to a certain point for MP3's. Cue and review buttons for both MP3's and CD Changers. These are the typical FF and Rev buttons that will either do playback of the current song in higher speed or skips a few seconds at a time. An extra field in the database to store the starting point of a song. So if you want to skip a long intro, you can indicate where to start the song. Then when CDJ plays that song, it'll start at the indicated starting point rather from the beginning. I know it should be easy for MP3's to do that, but not sure how well you can tell the CD changers to do that. Well, there's my wishlist for the time being. Thanks for doing a great job on CDJ. Kudos for ya. -George Tang _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From brian@posthuman.com Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:51:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:51:04 -0400 From: Brian Atkins brian@posthuman.com Subject: [slinkelist] Jukebox Server I use shoutcast to broadcast 128kbit MP3 (search around the net long enough and you can find the right codec for this), and PcAnywhere for remote control of my CDJ computer. Actually if you set the shoutcast source down to a lower bitrate I find I can even hear my CDs in my car via Metricom's 128kbit wireless service in Atlanta and a laptop. However the long term preferable solution is to transfer all my CDs and eventually DVDs to hard drives in perfect quality (no compression). This is becoming feasible now with devices like the new Maxtor network attached storage RAID boxes that have cheap price per gigabyte of storage. Just need software for the control!! Jamie Cansdale wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I have recently had an ASDL internet connection installed at home. All the > hardware is now in place to access my CD collection from work. Has anyone > come up with a software solution that uses the Slink-e? > > Would it be possible to write an HTTP front end for CDJ? I could then use a > Shoutcast server and CDJ to get what I want. It would be a case of > connecting to my Shoutcast server and controlling CDJ over the web. I could > even be naughty and make my jukebox accessible to the rest of the world... > > This is such an obvious idea I'd be surprised if it hasn't been done! > > Yours, Jamie. > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist -- Brian Atkins Director, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence http://www.singinst.org/ From PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:57:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:57:10 -0400 From: PaulMmn PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] WishLists Dear Colby, Thank you for all of your continued hard work keeping CDJ current. It's a marvelous piece of work. Now, while I've got you in a good mood (; I'll add my request to the Wish List: Once a playlist is playing is there any way to keep the 'Now Playing' entry centered in the playlist window? It's not a really serious issue, but I'd class it in the 'nice to have' category. Thanks for all your hard work. --Paul E Musselman PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com From jonasengstrom@telia.com Fri, 22 Sep 2000 05:52:52 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 05:52:52 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jonas_Engstr=F6m?= jonasengstrom@telia.com Subject: [slinkelist] WishLists 2 Dear Colby, I miss one feature: Adding MP3, the drag-n-drop folders. Is it possible to automatically create a new album and to set the title to the folder name. Also drag-n-drop multiple folders, to do the same for all folders. That is, create a album for each folder and add the files of the fold to that album These features would be nice, as I'm adding >4000 mp3-files. in approx 300 folders and want to create separate albums for each folder. Thanks for all your hard work. /Jonas From mike@macgirvin.com Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:24:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:24:25 -0700 From: Mike Macgirvin mike@macgirvin.com Subject: [slinkelist] WishLists PaulMmn wrote: > > Dear Colby, > > Thank you for all of your continued hard work keeping CDJ current. > It's a marvelous piece of work. > > Now, while I've got you in a good mood (; I'll add my request to > the Wish List: > > Once a playlist is playing is there any way to keep the 'Now Playing' > entry centered in the playlist window? It's not a really serious > issue, but I'd class it in the 'nice to have' category. Maybe we could kill two birds with one stone. I mentioned earlier that it'd be nice to have the "now playing" exported to file for those of us unable to setup active-x/com (for various technical reasons) and get the info via RPC. I'd still like that, so what if "now playing" was a program which just read from that file in a separate program? Then we could use the same program from networked computers and just access the file share without the COM setup issues. I'd like to see what's playing from anywhere in the house (slink-e is in the media lab upstairs, not in the "living centers"). I can do this by buying a new computer to be an NT domain server and then getting the info from the active control, but it seems a waste to spend 1-2k for this one (desirable) feature (and decreasing the reliability of the overall system because of the NT auth dependancy). It isn't desirable enough to spend 1-2k on, especially if I must compromise reliability to get there. CDJ knows what's playing, it would be nice to be able to display it remotely for a lesser cost. Even better than a fileshare would be a mini-TCP-server (not COM based) which any computer could access including my Linux boxes (hint they run the website). Accept connections on port and every time the client pinged with a carriage return or something spit back the current song info including elapsed time. The server solution has the advantage that it could be in real time whereas export to file is dependant on the refresh interval. PS> the 9/16 version is noticeably better in a lot of respects than 8/14 or whatever it was. No glitches encountered by me, and notable improvements in several key areas. A worthy mention: I tried to setup one of the album cover import tools from the user-supplied software area, and it complains about DLL mismatch (fatal). That's not a CDJ issue, but if you read this and happen to own the album cover program, we could use an update. From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Fri, 22 Sep 2000 03:25:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 03:25:15 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] WishLists > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Mike Macgirvin > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:24 AM > To: PaulMmn > Cc: Colby Boles; Slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] WishLists > > > > Maybe we could kill two birds with one stone. I mentioned earlier that > it'd be nice to have the "now playing" exported to file for those of us > unable to setup active-x/com (for various technical reasons) and get the > info via RPC. I'd still like that, so what if "now playing" was a > program which just read from that file in a separate program? Then we > could use the same program from networked computers and just access the > file share without the COM setup issues. > You can do this now. Just write a small program that runs on the CDJ machine and talks to CDJ via its automation interface. You can write the file with whatever info you want to take from CDJ at whatever interval you choose. --Mike From max@netscape.com Fri, 22 Sep 2000 01:06:35 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 01:06:35 -0700 From: Mike Macgirvin max@netscape.com Subject: [slinkelist] WishLists Mike Kropp wrote: > > Maybe we could kill two birds with one stone. I mentioned earlier that > > it'd be nice to have the "now playing" exported to file for those of us > > unable to setup active-x/com (for various technical reasons) and get the > > info via RPC. I'd still like that, so what if "now playing" was a > > program which just read from that file in a separate program? Then we > > could use the same program from networked computers and just access the > > file share without the COM setup issues. > > > > You can do this now. Just write a small program that runs on the CDJ > machine and talks to CDJ via its automation interface. You can write the > file with whatever info you want to take from CDJ at whatever interval you > choose. Yes, I know that - but it requires setting up the automation interface, which in turn requires an NT domain controller on my local net so that I can still share printers/files etc. with the slink-e machine (win98), which I do today without NT. It's the latter step I take issue with. Right now I operate a strictly peer-to-peer network where one machine doesn't care if another is down. Adding an NT domain controller to the mix requires network dependancies I don't care for, especially since I don't run Windows exclusively and would like to see my Linux boxes participate in any voluntary file sharing I create. Putting NT/win2000 on the slink-e machine is likewise a non-starter because neither of these OS's currently support the full range of software which I require for other uses (MIDI, IPsec, digital camera, etc.) . This box has to be win98 and it cannot rely on NT. Someday Microsoft may make it all work painlessly on an NT derivative but that isn't the case today. From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:05:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:05:50 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] WishLists You don't need NT to automate CDJ. Just make sure it uses Slinkeserv. CDJ, Slinkeserv, and your app will all live quite happily on a Win98 machine. Just write your app to create the text file you want and other apps on your network can read it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Macgirvin [mailto:max@netscape.com] > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 4:07 AM > To: Mike Kropp > Cc: Slink-e List > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] WishLists > > > > > Mike Kropp wrote: > > > > Maybe we could kill two birds with one stone. I mentioned earlier that > > > it'd be nice to have the "now playing" exported to file for > those of us > > > unable to setup active-x/com (for various technical reasons) > and get the > > > info via RPC. I'd still like that, so what if "now playing" was a > > > program which just read from that file in a separate program? Then we > > > could use the same program from networked computers and just > access the > > > file share without the COM setup issues. > > > > > > > You can do this now. Just write a small program that runs on the CDJ > > machine and talks to CDJ via its automation interface. You can > write the > > file with whatever info you want to take from CDJ at whatever > interval you > > choose. > > Yes, I know that - but it requires setting up the automation interface, > which in turn requires an NT domain controller on my local net so that I > can still share printers/files etc. with the slink-e machine (win98), > which I do today without NT. It's the latter step I take issue with. > Right now I operate a strictly peer-to-peer network where one machine > doesn't care if another is down. Adding an NT domain controller to the > mix requires network dependancies I don't care for, especially since I > don't run Windows exclusively and would like to see my Linux boxes > participate in any voluntary file sharing I create. Putting NT/win2000 > on the slink-e machine is likewise a non-starter because neither of > these OS's currently support the full range of software which I require > for other uses (MIDI, IPsec, digital camera, etc.) . This box has to be > win98 and it cannot rely on NT. Someday Microsoft may make it all work > painlessly on an NT derivative but that isn't the case today. > From jshanker@intac.com Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:19:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:19:52 -0400 From: Judd Shanker jshanker@intac.com Subject: [slinkelist] Wishlists This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C02487.07BD3840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One easy thing, I would appreciate is to make the duration of time for sampling a 'settings' variable so it could be changed. Then I'd ask again for an automatic way to add a directory full of MP3's. CDJ is always weeks behind in cataloging the things I am recording. With the price of storage dropping disk is cheaper than changers. On the other hand, incorporating an MP3 recorder would also solve the problem. Thanks. 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One easy thing, I would appreciate is to = make the=20 duration of  time for sampling a 'settings' variable so it could be = changed.

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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C02487.07BD3840-- From pfaffman@relaxpc.com Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:29:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:29:44 -0500 From: Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:11:54 -0700, "Colby Boles" said: > just use > cdj:playlist_explode[cur] > in your map entry and you'll get just what you want. I felt sill for not trying this before whining, but now I've tried it & it's not working for me. I've got 1.32 09/16/00 & cdj:playlist_explode works only for albums, not for single tracks. I'd like to be able to explode a single track into all the tracks on that disk. Am I missing something? -- Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jay Pfaffman [mailto:pfaffman@relaxpc.com] >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:09 PM >> To: cboles@nirvis.com >> Cc: SlinkE List >> Subject: Re: [slinkelist] (no subject) >> >> >> With all this talk about search lists & such, this may be a good time >> to do this. I've asked before, but either you've never stuck this in, >> or I just don't know how to do it. >> >> I'd like to be listening on random and when a song from a >> long-forgotten album comes on be able to push a button on the remote >> and have the entire album play. It seems to me that if I could >> "explode" a single track into all the tracks of that album, it'd be >> easy to map a event to that like: >> >> vcr:enter {playlist_explode} >> >> Perhaps there's a way to do this already that I just don't >> understand. If there is a way to do this already, I'd love to see a >> map file that'd do this for me. >> >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com >> +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) >> http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ >> >> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:47:41 -0700, "Colby Boles" >> said: >> >> > yes. i tweaked it a bit more for the next release so that it will try to >> > alternate if possible so that it behaves a bit better. >> >> > Colby >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Mike Kropp [mailto:mkropp@cathouse.mv.com] >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 12:31 PM >> >> To: Colby Boles; Slink-e List >> >> Subject: RE: [slinkelist] (no subject) >> >> >> >> >> >> Does this apply to randomization from a search list too? I've seen it >> >> happen a few times. >> >> >> >> --Mike >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com >> [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On >> >> > Behalf Of Colby Boles >> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:00 PM >> >> > To: Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com >> >> > Subject: FW: [slinkelist] (no subject) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > Hi Colby !! >> >> > > >> >> > > At first thank you for the new cdj version !! >> >> > > I have found two mistakes ! >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > 1. If I go to the album window and explode and optimize the >> >> > > disks, than the >> >> > > play >> >> > > order in the list is not right ! The playing order is >> >> 12112212112212 for >> >> > > example ! >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > The optimize function has changed to minimize delay between >> >> songs over the >> >> > entire playlist, sometimes it needs to play songs from the >> same album to >> >> > accomplish this. I may add an extra option to prioritize >> >> alternation over >> >> > global delay minimization later. >> >> > >> >> > > 2. If I search an artist, track or something and I take the track >> >> > > with drag >> >> > > and drop to the playlist >> >> > > then a wrong track appeares in the playlist ! >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > Sorry about that - it has already been fixed for the next >> >> release. It only >> >> > happens if you have it sorted. >> >> > >> >> > Colby >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >> >> > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >> > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist >> >> >> >> From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:46:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:46:54 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) Perhaps a "cdj:playlist_condense[cur]" followed by the "cdj:playlist_explode[cur]" would do it. I don't know what it would do for ordering though. Maybe you need this sequence: cdj:playlist_stop cdj:playlist_condense[cur] cdj:playlist_explode[cur] cdj:playlist_play Just an untested theory. --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Jay Pfaffman > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:30 AM > To: cboles@nirvis.com > Cc: cboles@nirvis.com; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] (no subject) > > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:11:54 -0700, "Colby Boles" > said: > > > just use > > cdj:playlist_explode[cur] > > > in your map entry and you'll get just what you want. > > I felt sill for not trying this before whining, but now I've tried it > & it's not working for me. I've got 1.32 09/16/00 & > cdj:playlist_explode works only for albums, not for single tracks. > I'd like to be able to explode a single track into all the tracks on > that disk. Am I missing something? > > -- > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Jay Pfaffman [mailto:pfaffman@relaxpc.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:09 PM > >> To: cboles@nirvis.com > >> Cc: SlinkE List > >> Subject: Re: [slinkelist] (no subject) > >> > >> > >> With all this talk about search lists & such, this may be a good time > >> to do this. I've asked before, but either you've never stuck this in, > >> or I just don't know how to do it. > >> > >> I'd like to be listening on random and when a song from a > >> long-forgotten album comes on be able to push a button on the remote > >> and have the entire album play. It seems to me that if I could > >> "explode" a single track into all the tracks of that album, it'd be > >> easy to map a event to that like: > >> > >> vcr:enter {playlist_explode} > >> > >> Perhaps there's a way to do this already that I just don't > >> understand. If there is a way to do this already, I'd love to see a > >> map file that'd do this for me. > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> -- > >> Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > >> +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > >> http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > >> > >> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:47:41 -0700, "Colby Boles" > >> said: > >> > >> > yes. i tweaked it a bit more for the next release so that it > will try to > >> > alternate if possible so that it behaves a bit better. > >> > >> > Colby > >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: Mike Kropp [mailto:mkropp@cathouse.mv.com] > >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 12:31 PM > >> >> To: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > >> >> Subject: RE: [slinkelist] (no subject) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Does this apply to randomization from a search list too? > I've seen it > >> >> happen a few times. > >> >> > >> >> --Mike > >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- > >> >> > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > >> [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > >> >> > Behalf Of Colby Boles > >> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:00 PM > >> >> > To: Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com > >> >> > Subject: FW: [slinkelist] (no subject) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Hi Colby !! > >> >> > > > >> >> > > At first thank you for the new cdj version !! > >> >> > > I have found two mistakes ! > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > 1. If I go to the album window and explode and optimize the > >> >> > > disks, than the > >> >> > > play > >> >> > > order in the list is not right ! The playing order is > >> >> 12112212112212 for > >> >> > > example ! > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > The optimize function has changed to minimize delay between > >> >> songs over the > >> >> > entire playlist, sometimes it needs to play songs from the > >> same album to > >> >> > accomplish this. I may add an extra option to prioritize > >> >> alternation over > >> >> > global delay minimization later. > >> >> > > >> >> > > 2. If I search an artist, track or something and I take > the track > >> >> > > with drag > >> >> > > and drop to the playlist > >> >> > > then a wrong track appeares in the playlist ! > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > Sorry about that - it has already been fixed for the next > >> >> release. It only > >> >> > happens if you have it sorted. > >> >> > > >> >> > Colby > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >> >> > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >> > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:49:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:49:16 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] Wishlists Not to start an rwar here but why is everyone so interested in the degraded sound quality of an MP3? --Mike -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Judd Shanker Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:20 AM To: 'Slink-e List' Subject: [slinkelist] Wishlists One easy thing, I would appreciate is to make the duration of time for sampling a 'settings' variable so it could be changed. Then I'd ask again for an automatic way to add a directory full of MP3's. CDJ is always weeks behind in cataloging the things I am recording. With the price of storage dropping disk is cheaper than changers. On the other hand, incorporating an MP3 recorder would also solve the problem. Thanks. Judd Shanker From jshanker@intac.com Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:11:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:11:35 -0400 From: Judd Shanker jshanker@intac.com Subject: [slinkelist] Wishlists I, for one, can't hear the quality difference. Then there is the space and cost of having two or more copies of the music. Public libraries have great CDs to loan. Judd |-----Original Message----- |From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com |[mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On |Behalf Of Mike Kropp |Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:49 AM |To: Judd Shanker; Slink-e List |Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Wishlists | | |Not to start an rwar here but why is everyone so interested in |the degraded |sound quality of an MP3? | |--Mike | -----Original Message----- | From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com |[mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On |Behalf Of Judd Shanker | Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:20 AM | To: 'Slink-e List' | Subject: [slinkelist] Wishlists | | | One easy thing, I would appreciate is to make the duration |of time for |sampling a 'settings' variable so it could be changed. | | Then I'd ask again for an automatic way to add a directory |full of MP3's. |CDJ is always weeks behind in cataloging the things I am |recording. With the |price of storage dropping disk is cheaper than changers. On |the other hand, |incorporating an MP3 recorder would also solve the problem. | | Thanks. | | Judd Shanker | | | | | |_______________________________________________ |slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com |http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist | From sonnie@casema.net Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:16:43 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:16:43 +0200 From: Sonnie sonnie@casema.net Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) That works, I've used the same functions. plaulist_condese[cur], basically turns the track into the complete CD. next you can use playlist_explode[cur] if you want to explode the disc in individual tracks... Jeroen -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Mike Kropp Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 5:47 PM To: Jay Pfaffman; Slink-e List Subject: RE: [slinkelist] (no subject) Perhaps a "cdj:playlist_condense[cur]" followed by the "cdj:playlist_explode[cur]" would do it. I don't know what it would do for ordering though. Maybe you need this sequence: cdj:playlist_stop cdj:playlist_condense[cur] cdj:playlist_explode[cur] cdj:playlist_play Just an untested theory. --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Jay Pfaffman > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:30 AM > To: cboles@nirvis.com > Cc: cboles@nirvis.com; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] (no subject) > > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:11:54 -0700, "Colby Boles" > said: > > > just use > > cdj:playlist_explode[cur] > > > in your map entry and you'll get just what you want. > > I felt sill for not trying this before whining, but now I've tried it > & it's not working for me. I've got 1.32 09/16/00 & > cdj:playlist_explode works only for albums, not for single tracks. > I'd like to be able to explode a single track into all the tracks on > that disk. Am I missing something? > > -- > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Jay Pfaffman [mailto:pfaffman@relaxpc.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:09 PM > >> To: cboles@nirvis.com > >> Cc: SlinkE List > >> Subject: Re: [slinkelist] (no subject) > >> > >> > >> With all this talk about search lists & such, this may be a good time > >> to do this. I've asked before, but either you've never stuck this in, > >> or I just don't know how to do it. > >> > >> I'd like to be listening on random and when a song from a > >> long-forgotten album comes on be able to push a button on the remote > >> and have the entire album play. It seems to me that if I could > >> "explode" a single track into all the tracks of that album, it'd be > >> easy to map a event to that like: > >> > >> vcr:enter {playlist_explode} > >> > >> Perhaps there's a way to do this already that I just don't > >> understand. If there is a way to do this already, I'd love to see a > >> map file that'd do this for me. > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> -- > >> Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > >> +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > >> http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > >> > >> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:47:41 -0700, "Colby Boles" > >> said: > >> > >> > yes. i tweaked it a bit more for the next release so that it > will try to > >> > alternate if possible so that it behaves a bit better. > >> > >> > Colby > >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: Mike Kropp [mailto:mkropp@cathouse.mv.com] > >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 12:31 PM > >> >> To: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > >> >> Subject: RE: [slinkelist] (no subject) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Does this apply to randomization from a search list too? > I've seen it > >> >> happen a few times. > >> >> > >> >> --Mike > >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- > >> >> > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > >> [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > >> >> > Behalf Of Colby Boles > >> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:00 PM > >> >> > To: Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com > >> >> > Subject: FW: [slinkelist] (no subject) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Hi Colby !! > >> >> > > > >> >> > > At first thank you for the new cdj version !! > >> >> > > I have found two mistakes ! > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > 1. If I go to the album window and explode and optimize the > >> >> > > disks, than the > >> >> > > play > >> >> > > order in the list is not right ! The playing order is > >> >> 12112212112212 for > >> >> > > example ! > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > The optimize function has changed to minimize delay between > >> >> songs over the > >> >> > entire playlist, sometimes it needs to play songs from the > >> same album to > >> >> > accomplish this. I may add an extra option to prioritize > >> >> alternation over > >> >> > global delay minimization later. > >> >> > > >> >> > > 2. If I search an artist, track or something and I take > the track > >> >> > > with drag > >> >> > > and drop to the playlist > >> >> > > then a wrong track appeares in the playlist ! > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > Sorry about that - it has already been fixed for the next > >> >> release. It only > >> >> > happens if you have it sorted. > >> >> > > >> >> > Colby > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >> >> > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >> > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From pfaffman@relaxpc.com Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:07:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:07:30 -0500 From: Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:16:43 +0200, "Sonnie" said: > That works, I've used the same functions. > plaulist_condese[cur], basically turns the track into the complete CD. So it does. I'd left the [cur] off of my playlist_condense. > next you can use playlist_explode[cur] if you want to explode the disc in > individual tracks... Very cool. RTFM. Thanks. -- Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:12:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:12:39 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] Wishlists > Public libraries have great CDs to loan. And artists don't get paid... From gtang@gtcons.com Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:30:20 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:30:20 -0700 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] New Requests Oh, one more thing, I've noticed that I can run several different MP3 players all at once and each plyaing a different MP3 file. I don't know if this is a W2K feature that allows multiple wave sources use the same wave device or if this is available on all Windows. If this is the nature of MP3 players on all Windows, could you add a second MP3 player into CDJ so that we can do overlaping between 2 MP3's??? Just a thought. -George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Tang, George Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:49 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] New Requests Hi Colby, Since you're already working on the next release, I was wondering if you could add the following features: A slider to indicate song playing position and allows one to slide and cue it to a certain point for MP3's. Cue and review buttons for both MP3's and CD Changers. These are the typical FF and Rev buttons that will either do playback of the current song in higher speed or skips a few seconds at a time. An extra field in the database to store the starting point of a song. So if you want to skip a long intro, you can indicate where to start the song. Then when CDJ plays that song, it'll start at the indicated starting point rather from the beginning. I know it should be easy for MP3's to do that, but not sure how well you can tell the CD changers to do that. Well, there's my wishlist for the time being. Thanks for doing a great job on CDJ. Kudos for ya. -George Tang _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From THarris@leasedirect.com Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:44:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:44:25 -0400 From: Harris, Terry THarris@leasedirect.com Subject: [slinkelist] WishList - New Direction Hello all, I've lurked in this list enough. I feel compelled to weigh in on this subject. Virtually every feature I have seen on your wishlists is a feature that would serve only a small portion of the CDJ users. In some cases, the request is specific to a single hardware and software configuration. Colby is just one person. And from what I can tell, CDJ code must be complex enough that even Colby has trouble making a modification without breaking other features. From where I sit, there is only one solution to these problems: Colby can release CDJ into the public domain, but maintains "ownership" of the official releases. If you want a feature, either you add it yourself (and submit it back to the community) or you lobby the community to have someone add it for you. This way, features that would benefit us all will make it in. Single-purpose features would be the responsibility of the requester. It has worked for Linux, VNC, GNU, etc... My two cents... ********************************************************************** The information transmitted via this e-mail is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ********************************************************************** From m@wroth.com Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:51:57 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:51:57 -0400 From: michael mcdermott m@wroth.com Subject: [slinkelist] Wishlist It would be nice to be able to organize cds/mp3s better into different user definable styles of music, with tabs or a pulldown box. I dont know about anyone else... but once you get upwards of 400 cds or so and just want to play everything thats classical then it gets to be a pain to hunt for them in the main listing and drag them over into the playlist. and Yes i do know about the search feature, but this just seems more user friendly and can be done without the keyboard. it could end up being pretty slick with multiple windows and being able to drag cds from the (for example) undefined window into the jazz window or even copy it there if it crosses genres you could arrange things by deade this way too, i dont know, it just seems like a better way to index things to me. From j.schaffer@snet.net Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:54:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:54:37 -0400 From: Jeff Schaffer j.schaffer@snet.net Subject: [slinkelist] WishLists Actually, my version of this is I'd like to keep the playlist scrolled to the end. I currently have my playlist set to display 5 ahead and 29 past, keeping my window just exactly full. I'd like to keep hundreds of already played, so that I could scroll back and review them, but if I do, I lose visibility of the currently playing and queued tracks. If The setting could keep the list to the end, I'd get what I want, and I wonder if it would also accomplish what you're after, Paul. Jeff At 10:57 PM -0400 9/21/00, PaulMmn wrote: >Dear Colby, > >Thank you for all of your continued hard work keeping CDJ current. >It's a marvelous piece of work. > >Now, while I've got you in a good mood (; I'll add my request to >the Wish List: > >Once a playlist is playing is there any way to keep the 'Now >Playing' entry centered in the playlist window? It's not a really >serious issue, but I'd class it in the 'nice to have' category. > >Thanks for all your hard work. > >--Paul E Musselman >PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From simon@themasons.net Sat, 23 Sep 2000 08:38:32 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 08:38:32 -0400 From: Simon Mason simon@themasons.net Subject: [slinkelist] Wishlists I pump the output from my CDJ (both cd changers and MP3) through my whole house system. Most of the rooms have two way or three way in wall speakers, but at the listening levels we use it is impossible to tell the difference between a CD or an MP3. In the media room, different story. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Judd Shanker Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:12 PM To: 'Mike Kropp'; 'Slink-e List' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Wishlists I, for one, can't hear the quality difference. Then there is the space and cost of having two or more copies of the music. Public libraries have great CDs to loan. Judd |-----Original Message----- |From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com |[mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On |Behalf Of Mike Kropp |Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:49 AM |To: Judd Shanker; Slink-e List |Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Wishlists | | |Not to start an rwar here but why is everyone so interested in |the degraded |sound quality of an MP3? | |--Mike | -----Original Message----- | From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com |[mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On |Behalf Of Judd Shanker | Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:20 AM | To: 'Slink-e List' | Subject: [slinkelist] Wishlists | | | One easy thing, I would appreciate is to make the duration |of time for |sampling a 'settings' variable so it could be changed. | | Then I'd ask again for an automatic way to add a directory |full of MP3's. |CDJ is always weeks behind in cataloging the things I am |recording. With the |price of storage dropping disk is cheaper than changers. On |the other hand, |incorporating an MP3 recorder would also solve the problem. | | Thanks. | | Judd Shanker | | | | | |_______________________________________________ |slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com |http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist | _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:26:57 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:26:57 -0400 From: PaulMmn PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] Wishlists That's illegal. Making a copy of a CD -you own- for your -own use- is legal. Making copies of -someone else's- CD for -your- use is not. You're supposed to borrow the library's CD, listen to it, then return it. If you want your own copy, spring for the bucks. For the purposes of this discussion, I'm ignoring any arguments about the evil of the recording companies, their high-handed attitudes, their predatory practices, their lousy treatment of recording artists (ie the copyright goes to the company, not the artists (unlike books, where the author owns the copyright, and the company just has publication rights)). I realize that for someone in school or without a lot of spare cash, buying CDs can be expensive. However, please remember that if your money does not pay the company, the artist doesn't get any money at all, and will eventually stop producing new music, and will go back to his old job washing cars. --Paul E Musselman PaulMmn@ix.netcom.nospam.com >I, for one, can't hear the quality difference. >Then there is the space and cost of having two or more copies of the music. >Public libraries have great CDs to loan. > >Judd From PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:31:05 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:31:05 -0400 From: PaulMmn PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] WishLists It would probably do just fine for randomly-selected playings, but for pre-defined lists, I'd still like the now-playing in the middle. Perhaps an option to select where you want the list oriented: [TOP / NOW PLAYING / BOTTOM] --Paul E Musselman PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com >Actually, my version of this is I'd like to keep the playlist >scrolled to the end. I currently have my playlist set to display 5 >ahead and 29 past, keeping my window just exactly full. I'd like to >keep hundreds of already played, so that I could scroll back and >review them, but if I do, I lose visibility of the currently playing >and queued tracks. If The setting could keep the list to the end, >I'd get what I want, and I wonder if it would also accomplish what >you're after, Paul. > >Jeff > >At 10:57 PM -0400 9/21/00, PaulMmn wrote: >>Dear Colby, >> >>Thank you for all of your continued hard work keeping CDJ current. >>It's a marvelous piece of work. >> >>Now, while I've got you in a good mood (; I'll add my request to >>the Wish List: >> >>Once a playlist is playing is there any way to keep the 'Now >>Playing' entry centered in the playlist window? It's not a really >>serious issue, but I'd class it in the 'nice to have' category. >> >>Thanks for all your hard work. >> >>--Paul E Musselman >>PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >>http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From ncunningham@UrbanMedia.com Sat, 23 Sep 2000 19:49:05 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 19:49:05 -0400 From: Cunningham, Neil ncunningham@UrbanMedia.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ will not play disks I'm not exactly sure when this started so I don't know if it's a cdj version issue or not. I'm running the latest 9/16. Problem: When I add a song or cd to the playlist the disc gets qued up then the player goes into pause. If I click on the playlist play button in cdj the player goes from pause to play back to pause. If I push play on the player the disc plays fine. In the player window there is an icon with 3 "z's". What does this mean? It is seeing the right players or at least showing the right model #'s. Hase anyone else seen this before? I sent email to Colby a few days ago but I'm guessing he's busy since I haven't heard anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Neil From ncunningham@UrbanMedia.com Sat, 23 Sep 2000 20:10:17 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 20:10:17 -0400 From: Cunningham, Neil ncunningham@UrbanMedia.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ will not play disks {Update} Ok, This doesn't really make sense to me but here goes. With both players showing the 3 z's as the status. I opened up the options window and changed the SL port they were plugged into (to a port they aren't plugged into) closed the window and re-opened it to change them back to the right SL port. After putting them back to the right SL port the icon changes to "stopped" and both players work as they should. For the record I never moved the actual cable. If I close CDJ and re-open it they both go to the 3z status and I have to go through the same process again to get them back. If anyone has any insight as to why this is I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Neil -----Original Message----- From: Cunningham, Neil To: 'Slinkelist@nirvis.com' Sent: 9/23/00 7:49 PM Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ will not play disks I'm not exactly sure when this started so I don't know if it's a cdj version issue or not. I'm running the latest 9/16. Problem: When I add a song or cd to the playlist the disc gets qued up then the player goes into pause. If I click on the playlist play button in cdj the player goes from pause to play back to pause. If I push play on the player the disc plays fine. In the player window there is an icon with 3 "z's". What does this mean? It is seeing the right players or at least showing the right model #'s. Hase anyone else seen this before? I sent email to Colby a few days ago but I'm guessing he's busy since I haven't heard anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Neil _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From Mark.Johnson@FirstDoor.com Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:13:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:13:44 -0400 From: Mark Johnson Mark.Johnson@FirstDoor.com Subject: [slinkelist] Wishlist - New Feature - Sorting Artist/Album Li st I second this one and I've asked overworked Colby for this a couple of times. A user-defined field included in the header list would let you sort by a catagory of your choice. For example, this would let you scroll through Jazz separate from Classical. I've tried using some of the other fields but most are formatted for date, time or numeric data. This would be a great help, Colby. Mark Johnson -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of michael mcdermott Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 3:52 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Wishlist It would be nice to be able to organize cds/mp3s better into different user definable styles of music, with tabs or a pulldown box. I dont know about anyone else... but once you get upwards of 400 cds or so and just want to play everything thats classical then it gets to be a pain to hunt for them in the main listing and drag them over into the playlist. and Yes i do know about the search feature, but this just seems more user friendly and can be done without the keyboard. it could end up being pretty slick with multiple windows and being able to drag cds from the (for example) undefined window into the jazz window or even copy it there if it crosses genres you could arrange things by deade this way too, i dont know, it just seems like a better way to index things to me. _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From cboles@nirvis.com Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:15:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:15:20 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ will not play disks {Update} It's not clear, but from what I can gather, you have loaded device files for the CD changers. If so, you should not do this. This is what is causing problem. Go to View | Options | Devices and delete these and your problems will go away. Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Cunningham, Neil > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 5:10 PM > To: 'Slinkelist@nirvis.com' > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] CDJ will not play disks {Update} > > > Ok, > > This doesn't really make sense to me but here goes. > > With both players showing the 3 z's as the status. I opened up > the options > window and changed the SL port they were plugged into (to a port > they aren't > plugged into) closed the window and re-opened it to change them > back to the > right SL port. After putting them back to the right SL port the icon > changes to "stopped" and both players work as they should. For > the record I > never moved the actual cable. If I close CDJ and re-open it they > both go to > the 3z status and I have to go through the same process again to get them > back. > > If anyone has any insight as to why this is I would greatly appreciate it. > > Thanks, > Neil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cunningham, Neil > To: 'Slinkelist@nirvis.com' > Sent: 9/23/00 7:49 PM > Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ will not play disks > > I'm not exactly sure when this started so I don't know if it's a cdj > version issue or not. I'm running the latest 9/16. > > > Problem: > > When I add a song or cd to the playlist the disc gets qued up then the > player goes into pause. If I click on the playlist play button in cdj > the > player goes from pause to play back to pause. If I push play on the > player > the disc plays fine. > > In the player window there is an icon with 3 "z's". What does this > mean? > It is seeing the right players or at least showing the right model #'s. > > Hase anyone else seen this before? I sent email to Colby a few days ago > but > I'm guessing he's busy since I haven't heard anything. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Neil > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From saleh.igal@archongroup.com Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:40:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:40:42 -0500 From: Igal, Saleh saleh.igal@archongroup.com Subject: [slinkelist] Wishlist - New Feature - Sorting Artist/Album Li st I strongly agree with the need for a couple of sortable user-defined fields. I have about 1000 CDs under management now, in about a dozen general generes, and just the ability to sort would be a godsend. This same mechanism could also help people with a lot of artists starting with "the" and "firstname lastname" format. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 8:14 am To: 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Wishlist - New Feature - Sorting Artist/Album Li st I second this one and I've asked overworked Colby for this a couple of times. A user-defined field included in the header list would let you sort by a catagory of your choice. For example, this would let you scroll through Jazz separate from Classical. I've tried using some of the other fields but most are formatted for date, time or numeric data. This would be a great help, Colby. Mark Johnson -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of michael mcdermott Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 3:52 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Wishlist It would be nice to be able to organize cds/mp3s better into different user definable styles of music, with tabs or a pulldown box. I dont know about anyone else... but once you get upwards of 400 cds or so and just want to play everything thats classical then it gets to be a pain to hunt for them in the main listing and drag them over into the playlist. and Yes i do know about the search feature, but this just seems more user friendly and can be done without the keyboard. it could end up being pretty slick with multiple windows and being able to drag cds from the (for example) undefined window into the jazz window or even copy it there if it crosses genres you could arrange things by deade this way too, i dont know, it just seems like a better way to index things to me. _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From Dylan.Ginsburg@OneSoft.com Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:50:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:50:11 -0400 From: Dylan Ginsburg Dylan.Ginsburg@OneSoft.com Subject: [slinkelist] Automated ripping and MP3 encoding of entire jukebox I find myself needing to convert my entire CD collection to MP3. I really don't want to spend the next several months of my life being a CD feeding monkey slave to my computer. I have all my CD's in a jukebox, I have a digital connection between my jukebox and my computer's sound card, I have Slink-e, and I'm a software engineer with a lot of experience on the Windows platform. It seems that I have all of the pieces necessary to automate the process. I searched through my local archive of slinkelist on this topic. I found a thread with the good summary below of the steps that would be necessary to make an automated process that would rip and MP3 encode an entire jukebox. Did this project ever go anywhere? If it has begun I'd like to contribute. If it hasn't begun I'd like to start working on it. If necessary, I will investigate if it's feasible to do entirely myself but I would sure welcome anyone else who wishes to work on it with me. I offer to handle the coordination. (Or not if someone else really wants to do it. It doesn't matter to me.) I would choose to write it in C++ using MS Visual C++ 6. I could probably be convinced (kicking and screaming) to write it in VB or even script though I'm much less comfortable with those development environments. I'm open to writing a polished program or finding a way to cobble together the steps below in a semi-automated, semi-manual process. Here are my quick takes on those 6 steps: 1. I haven't a clue how to do this one. This is the part that would probably be the most difficult for me to do myself. I would have to do a lot of research. 2. Once we have WAV files this shouldn't be difficult using LAME which is a GPL MP3 encoder. It has a command line interface or the code could be integrated directly. It's very flexible and is generally recognized as the highest quality encoder available. I haven't looked into whether it can trim leading and trailing silence which may be necessary because I suspect we won't be able to begin/end the WAV recording process at precisely the correct times. 3. It looks like this information is available using the "playing" CDJ event through SlinkX. Receiving this event signifies that a new track is being played so it could be the indicator used by step 1 to begin/end a WAV recording. I worry about being able to begin the WAV recording before the song begins. It might be necessary to record one big WAV per CD and break it up in post processing. 4. Already handled by step 2. 5. The db access is easy once we have the unique key to identify the track in CDJ's db. 6. I don't know anything about ID3 tags though I suspect it won't be difficult to add the tag once we have the data and know the location of the MP3 file. I bet there are command line utilities or GPL code that we can use to do this. If anyone is interested in working on this (or if work has already been done) please contact me via email or this list. Thanks! Dylan Ginsburg Product Development Manager OneSoft Corp. 703-770-4598 dylan.ginsburg@onesoft.com -----Original Message----- From: Michael Holopainen [mailto:michael@laserle.fi] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 7:35 AM Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 When there was talk about that project in this list, it came into conclusion that it should be divided to different areas for people with expertese in that area : 1. Digital Signal prosessing = capturing audio stream from soundcard. 2. compressing it to mp3. 3. interfacing with CDJ to CDDBID of currently playing CD 4. fileoperation to save the files in desired format (naming+path) 5. database operation to retrieve data of matching CDDBID 6. composing & writing ID3 tag to mp3 file From ncunningham@UrbanMedia.com Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:55:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:55:23 -0400 From: Cunningham, Neil ncunningham@UrbanMedia.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ will not play disks {Update} You're right. I do have device files loaded for the changers. I disabled them instead of removing them and it worked thanks. Did you add a new paramter to "playlist_item"? The last param seems to be new (player/disc/track)? Thanks Neil -----Original Message----- From: Colby Boles To: Cunningham, Neil; Slinkelist@nirvis.com Sent: 9/25/00 1:15 PM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] CDJ will not play disks {Update} It's not clear, but from what I can gather, you have loaded device files for the CD changers. If so, you should not do this. This is what is causing problem. Go to View | Options | Devices and delete these and your problems will go away. Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Cunningham, Neil > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 5:10 PM > To: 'Slinkelist@nirvis.com' > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] CDJ will not play disks {Update} > > > Ok, > > This doesn't really make sense to me but here goes. > > With both players showing the 3 z's as the status. I opened up > the options > window and changed the SL port they were plugged into (to a port > they aren't > plugged into) closed the window and re-opened it to change them > back to the > right SL port. After putting them back to the right SL port the icon > changes to "stopped" and both players work as they should. For > the record I > never moved the actual cable. If I close CDJ and re-open it they > both go to > the 3z status and I have to go through the same process again to get them > back. > > If anyone has any insight as to why this is I would greatly appreciate it. > > Thanks, > Neil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cunningham, Neil > To: 'Slinkelist@nirvis.com' > Sent: 9/23/00 7:49 PM > Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ will not play disks > > I'm not exactly sure when this started so I don't know if it's a cdj > version issue or not. I'm running the latest 9/16. > > > Problem: > > When I add a song or cd to the playlist the disc gets qued up then the > player goes into pause. If I click on the playlist play button in cdj > the > player goes from pause to play back to pause. If I push play on the > player > the disc plays fine. > > In the player window there is an icon with 3 "z's". What does this > mean? > It is seeing the right players or at least showing the right model #'s. > > Hase anyone else seen this before? I sent email to Colby a few days ago > but > I'm guessing he's busy since I haven't heard anything. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Neil > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From Peter.Luxem@Telepolis.Antwerpen.be Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:50:42 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:50:42 +0200 From: Peter Luxem Peter.Luxem@Telepolis.Antwerpen.be Subject: [slinkelist] Automated ripping and MP3 encoding of entire juk ebox Hi Dylan, Nice idea, I went through ripping part of my collection to mp3. I did it manually via EAC and Lame, it took about 2 hours for 1 cd, so my computer was rather busy a lot of the time. I don't have a digital connection to my PC (yet), I didn't thought of the possibilities. See inline for the rest of my comment. > I find myself needing to convert my entire CD collection to > MP3. I really > don't want to spend the next several months of my life being > a CD feeding > monkey slave to my computer. I have all my CD's in a jukebox, I have a > digital connection between my jukebox and my computer's sound > card, I have > Slink-e, and I'm a software engineer with a lot of experience > on the Windows > platform. It seems that I have all of the pieces necessary to > automate the > process. > > I searched through my local archive of slinkelist on this > topic. I found a > thread with the good summary below of the steps that would be > necessary to > make an automated process that would rip and MP3 encode an > entire jukebox. > > Did this project ever go anywhere? If it has begun I'd like > to contribute. > If it hasn't begun I'd like to start working on it. If > necessary, I will > investigate if it's feasible to do entirely myself but I > would sure welcome > anyone else who wishes to work on it with me. I offer to handle the > coordination. (Or not if someone else really wants to do it. > It doesn't > matter to me.) > > I would choose to write it in C++ using MS Visual C++ 6. I > could probably be > convinced (kicking and screaming) to write it in VB or even > script though > I'm much less comfortable with those development > environments. I'm open to > writing a polished program or finding a way to cobble > together the steps > below in a semi-automated, semi-manual process. Do it in VisualC++. Use ATL to make some ActiveX object or just plain Dispatch compatible interfaces. I don't know if you're familiar with COM, but if not, this is a good opportunity to start learning it. If you design a couple of interface and implement them, they can be used later by a VB frontend, or even scripting languages (JScript). Lately I do almost all my testing with JScript, it really cuts development time. > > Here are my quick takes on those 6 steps: > > 1. I haven't a clue how to do this one. This is the part that > would probably > be the most difficult for me to do myself. I would have to do a lot of > research. > > 2. Once we have WAV files this shouldn't be difficult using > LAME which is a > GPL MP3 encoder. It has a command line interface or the code could be > integrated directly. It's very flexible and is generally > recognized as the > highest quality encoder available. I haven't looked into > whether it can trim > leading and trailing silence which may be necessary because I > suspect we > won't be able to begin/end the WAV recording process at precisely the > correct times. Yes, use lame. I encoded everything with lame in VBR. http://www.r3mix.net [...Edited...] > > 6. I don't know anything about ID3 tags though I suspect it won't be > difficult to add the tag once we have the data and know the > location of the > MP3 file. I bet there are command line utilities or GPL code > that we can use > to do this. There is a program called mp3tagger, which fills in V2 and V1 mp3 tags, from the filename. So if the filename is correct, it's a minute work selecting your mp3's and guessing mp3 tags from the filename. I really works, I did it this way. Peter Luxem From zeke@Exchange.Microsoft.com Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:30:37 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:30:37 -0700 From: Zeke Koch zeke@Exchange.Microsoft.com Subject: [slinkelist] Automated ripping and MP3 encoding of entire juk ebox This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0278B.AA27EDB6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also had visions of a simmilar process, but then I realized that it would take 21 days straight to rip my 700 CD's and that it would be easier to do it on the computer. I just popped a new CD in every 10 - 20 minutes while I was programming and finished 400 in a few weeks. Once you get in the habit it goes rather quickly. The key is to have something else to do on the computer. -Zeke -----Original Message----- From: Peter Luxem [mailto:Peter.Luxem@Telepolis.Antwerpen.be] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 11:51 PM To: Dylan Ginsburg; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Automated ripping and MP3 encoding of entire juk ebox Hi Dylan, Nice idea, I went through ripping part of my collection to mp3. I did it manually via EAC and Lame, it took about 2 hours for 1 cd, so my computer was rather busy a lot of the time. I don't have a digital connection to my PC (yet), I didn't thought of the possibilities. See inline for the rest of my comment. > I find myself needing to convert my entire CD collection to=20 > MP3. I really > don't want to spend the next several months of my life being=20 > a CD feeding > monkey slave to my computer. I have all my CD's in a jukebox, I have a > digital connection between my jukebox and my computer's sound=20 > card, I have > Slink-e, and I'm a software engineer with a lot of experience=20 > on the Windows > platform. It seems that I have all of the pieces necessary to=20 > automate the > process. >=20 > I searched through my local archive of slinkelist on this=20 > topic. I found a > thread with the good summary below of the steps that would be=20 > necessary to > make an automated process that would rip and MP3 encode an=20 > entire jukebox. >=20 > Did this project ever go anywhere? If it has begun I'd like=20 > to contribute. > If it hasn't begun I'd like to start working on it. If=20 > necessary, I will > investigate if it's feasible to do entirely myself but I=20 > would sure welcome > anyone else who wishes to work on it with me. I offer to handle the > coordination. (Or not if someone else really wants to do it.=20 > It doesn't > matter to me.) >=20 > I would choose to write it in C++ using MS Visual C++ 6. I=20 > could probably be > convinced (kicking and screaming) to write it in VB or even=20 > script though > I'm much less comfortable with those development=20 > environments. I'm open to > writing a polished program or finding a way to cobble=20 > together the steps > below in a semi-automated, semi-manual process. Do it in VisualC++. Use ATL to make some ActiveX object or just plain Dispatch compatible interfaces. I don't know if you're familiar with COM, but if not, this is a good opportunity to start learning it. If you design a couple of interface and implement them, they can be used later by a VB frontend, or even scripting languages (JScript). Lately I do almost all my testing with JScript, it really cuts development time. >=20 > Here are my quick takes on those 6 steps: >=20 > 1. I haven't a clue how to do this one. This is the part that=20 > would probably > be the most difficult for me to do myself. I would have to do a lot of > research. >=20 > 2. Once we have WAV files this shouldn't be difficult using=20 > LAME which is a > GPL MP3 encoder. It has a command line interface or the code could be > integrated directly. It's very flexible and is generally=20 > recognized as the > highest quality encoder available. I haven't looked into=20 > whether it can trim > leading and trailing silence which may be necessary because I=20 > suspect we > won't be able to begin/end the WAV recording process at precisely the > correct times. Yes, use lame. I encoded everything with lame in VBR. http://www.r3mix.net [...Edited...] >=20 > 6. I don't know anything about ID3 tags though I suspect it won't be > difficult to add the tag once we have the data and know the=20 > location of the > MP3 file. I bet there are command line utilities or GPL code=20 > that we can use > to do this. There is a program called mp3tagger, which fills in V2 and V1 mp3 tags, from the filename. So if the filename is correct, it's a minute work selecting your mp3's and guessing mp3 tags from the filename. I really works, I did it this way. Peter Luxem _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0278B.AA27EDB6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [slinkelist] Automated ripping and MP3 encoding of entire juk = ebox

I also had visions of a simmilar process, but then I = realized that it would take 21 days straight to rip my 700 CD's and that = it would be easier to do it on the computer.  I just popped a new = CD in every 10 - 20 minutes while I was programming and finished 400 in = a few weeks.  Once you get in the habit it goes rather = quickly.  The key is to have something else to do on the = computer.

-Zeke

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Luxem [mailto:Peter.Luxem@Tel= epolis.Antwerpen.be]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 11:51 PM
To: Dylan Ginsburg; slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Automated ripping and MP3 = encoding of entire
juk ebox


Hi Dylan,

Nice idea, I went through ripping part of my = collection to mp3.  I did it
manually via EAC and Lame, it took about 2 hours for = 1 cd, so my computer
was rather busy a lot of the time.  I don't have = a digital connection to my
PC (yet), I didn't thought of the = possibilities.  See inline for the rest of
my comment.

> I find myself needing to convert my entire CD = collection to
> MP3. I really
> don't want to spend the next several months of = my life being
> a CD feeding
> monkey slave to my computer. I have all my CD's = in a jukebox, I have a
> digital connection between my jukebox and my = computer's sound
> card, I have
> Slink-e, and I'm a software engineer with a lot = of experience
> on the Windows
> platform. It seems that I have all of the pieces = necessary to
> automate the
> process.
>
> I searched through my local archive of = slinkelist on this
> topic. I found a
> thread with the good summary below of the steps = that would be
> necessary to
> make an automated process that would rip and MP3 = encode an
> entire jukebox.
>
> Did this project ever go anywhere? If it has = begun I'd like
> to contribute.
> If it hasn't begun I'd like to start working on = it. If
> necessary, I will
> investigate if it's feasible to do entirely = myself but I
> would sure welcome
> anyone else who wishes to work on it with me. I = offer to handle the
> coordination. (Or not if someone else really = wants to do it.
> It doesn't
> matter to me.)
>
> I would choose to write it in C++ using MS = Visual C++ 6. I
> could probably be
> convinced (kicking and screaming) to write it in = VB or even
> script though
> I'm much less comfortable with those development =
> environments. I'm open to
> writing a polished program or finding a way to = cobble
> together the steps
> below in a semi-automated, semi-manual = process.
Do it in VisualC++.  Use ATL to make some = ActiveX object or just plain
Dispatch compatible interfaces.  I don't know if = you're familiar with COM,
but if not, this is a good opportunity to start = learning it.  If you design
a couple of interface and implement them, they can be = used later by a VB
frontend, or even scripting languages = (JScript).  Lately I do almost all my
testing with JScript, it really cuts development = time.
>
> Here are my quick takes on those 6 steps:
>
> 1. I haven't a clue how to do this one. This is = the part that
> would probably
> be the most difficult for me to do myself. I = would have to do a lot of
> research.
>
> 2. Once we have WAV files this shouldn't be = difficult using
> LAME which is a
> GPL MP3 encoder. It has a command line interface = or the code could be
> integrated directly. It's very flexible and is = generally
> recognized as the
> highest quality encoder available. I haven't = looked into
> whether it can trim
> leading and trailing silence which may be = necessary because I
> suspect we
> won't be able to begin/end the WAV recording = process at precisely the
> correct times.
Yes, use lame.  I encoded everything with lame = in VBR.

http://www.r3mix.net

[...Edited...]
>
> 6. I don't know anything about ID3 tags though I = suspect it won't be
> difficult to add the tag once we have the data = and know the
> location of the
> MP3 file. I bet there are command line utilities = or GPL code
> that we can use
> to do this.
There is a program called mp3tagger, which fills in = V2 and V1 mp3 tags, from
the filename.  So if the filename is correct, = it's a minute work selecting
your mp3's and guessing mp3 tags from the = filename.  I really works, I did
it this way.

Peter Luxem


_______________________________________________
slinkelist maillist  -  = slinkelist@nirvis.com
http://www.nir= vis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0278B.AA27EDB6-- From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:10:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:10:25 -0400 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] Automated ripping and MP3 encoding of entire jukebox I have done some experimentation and concluded it is difficult to automatically get the best possible MP3's from even a digital input sound card receiving digital from a CD player. There are several reasons for this (1) the sound quality is not perfect since there are imperfections in the digital stream, which will be recorded forever; (2) it is very difficult to identify the exact start and end of tracks so as to make an MP3 with no dead space at the beginning and end. On the other hand, there are several commercial programs that process the CD through a CD-ROM drive and don't suffer these drawbacks. For example, Exact Audio Copy is a program that will ensure a perfect copy of a CD by reading every track at least twice to make sure the samples have been read correct, and it will detect when the time counter reaches zero so you can start the MP3 at the exact beginning of the track. I see nothing lost in having to pass the CD's one by one through the CD-ROM drive since, after you have MP3's for every song and have the MP3's logged into the CDJ library, there is really no point in having the changer any more. As I see it, after all of the CD's are in MP3 format, I would remove all of the CD's from the changer and put them back in their boxes, and sell off the changer. If you buy into this theory, then you will be removing every one of the CD's from the changer anyway, so you might as well pass them through the CD-ROM player as part of this process. What I think is needed, therefore, is a program to scan a directory full of MP3's, and put those not already in the CDJ library into the library, via an automated process. Presumably, every CD is already in the CDJ library, in many cases with ratings, notes, lyrics, images, etc. So all that would be needed to change over the MP3's would be a C++ program that would match ID3 information from the MP3 to the entries in the library and then change the CD library entry into an entry for the MP3 with all of the information previously collected for the CD. After moving, say, 10 discs out of the changer, through the CD-ROM drive, and then into its box, you would then run the C++ program to add the created MP3's to the library. I have a list of contacts that I have assembled of people interested in this sort of thing. I will try to assemble it and post it to the slinkelist and to each member. Tom Humphrey From cboles@nirvis.com Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:26:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:26:10 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Automated ripping and MP3 encoding of entire jukebox With the right soundcard (e.g. the RME Digi96) it is possible to get the timcode information from the digital stream and be able to make a precise extraction of the track. The cool thing to do (i don't have time to do it - sorry) would be to rip mp3's in the background for everything that is played in CDJ and have a hidden field for every CD track which can point to a mirrored mp3 file. This way you make mp3s of all the songs you actually listen to without any effort or any extra time spent. Then CDJ could play either the real CD or the mp3 depending on the queuing scenario, preferring the CD if it is available for better sound quality. Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Thomas W. Humphrey > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:10 AM > To: Dylan Ginsburg; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Automated ripping and MP3 encoding of entire > jukebox > > > I have done some experimentation and concluded it is difficult to > automatically get the best possible MP3's from even a digital input sound > card receiving digital from a CD player. There are several > reasons for this > (1) the sound quality is not perfect since there are imperfections in the > digital stream, which will be recorded forever; (2) it is very > difficult to > identify the exact start and end of tracks so as to make an MP3 > with no dead > space at the beginning and end. On the other hand, there are several > commercial programs that process the CD through a CD-ROM drive and don't > suffer these drawbacks. For example, Exact Audio Copy is a program that > will ensure a perfect copy of a CD by reading every track at > least twice to > make sure the samples have been read correct, and it will detect when the > time counter reaches zero so you can start the MP3 at the exact > beginning of > the track. > > I see nothing lost in having to pass the CD's one by one through > the CD-ROM > drive since, after you have MP3's for every song and have the MP3's logged > into the CDJ library, there is really no point in having the changer any > more. As I see it, after all of the CD's are in MP3 format, I > would remove > all of the CD's from the changer and put them back in their > boxes, and sell > off the changer. If you buy into this theory, then you will be removing > every one of the CD's from the changer anyway, so you might as well pass > them through the CD-ROM player as part of this process. > > What I think is needed, therefore, is a program to scan a > directory full of > MP3's, and put those not already in the CDJ library into the > library, via an > automated process. Presumably, every CD is already in the CDJ library, in > many cases with ratings, notes, lyrics, images, etc. So all that would be > needed to change over the MP3's would be a C++ program that would > match ID3 > information from the MP3 to the entries in the library and then change the > CD library entry into an entry for the MP3 with all of the information > previously collected for the CD. After moving, say, 10 discs out of the > changer, through the CD-ROM drive, and then into its box, you > would then run > the C++ program to add the created MP3's to the library. > > I have a list of contacts that I have assembled of people > interested in this > sort of thing. I will try to assemble it and post it to the > slinkelist and > to each member. > > Tom Humphrey > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:37:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:37:16 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ Version I've posted a new version of CDJ on the site. 9/25/00 Changed / added the playlist shuffle, alternate and optimize features All 3 functions only operate on the music at or beyond the current playing item. If the playlist is stopped, these functions include the current item. If the playlist is playing, they start at the next item. Shuffle randomizes the order of the remaining playlist items Alternate causes the remaining items to be minimally re-arranged such that they alternate players Optimize causes the remaining items to be minimally re-arranged such that there is no delay between them due to disc loading Fixed bug in search window which caused the wrong items to to be dropped into the playlist when the search was sorted Fixed potential crash when attempting to display what's currently playing while the library is loading 9/20/00 Remove small (one time) memory leaks Fixed random mode to have the following priorities (by rank) Don't repeat what is in the playlist Alternate changers Minimize delay Find disc function now skips duplicate discs on the next pass New library_location_updated[ ] notification From gtang@gtcons.com Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:51:22 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:51:22 -0700 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ Version Thanks for letting us know... especially when I'm at 85% of the 9/16/00 version... 8-P -George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Colby Boles Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:37 AM To: Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ Version I've posted a new version of CDJ on the site. 9/25/00 Changed / added the playlist shuffle, alternate and optimize features All 3 functions only operate on the music at or beyond the current playing item. If the playlist is stopped, these functions include the current item. If the playlist is playing, they start at the next item. Shuffle randomizes the order of the remaining playlist items Alternate causes the remaining items to be minimally re-arranged such that they alternate players Optimize causes the remaining items to be minimally re-arranged such that there is no delay between them due to disc loading Fixed bug in search window which caused the wrong items to to be dropped into the playlist when the search was sorted Fixed potential crash when attempting to display what's currently playing while the library is loading 9/20/00 Remove small (one time) memory leaks Fixed random mode to have the following priorities (by rank) Don't repeat what is in the playlist Alternate changers Minimize delay Find disc function now skips duplicate discs on the next pass New library_location_updated[ ] notification _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:18:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:18:33 -0400 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] Automated ripping and MP3 encoding of entire jukebox Colby: I love the "background MP3" idea. I didn't really want to sell off my changers, I just didn't see a use for them once the MP3's were created. Now you have supplied me with a reason to keep them. The ripping could be done with separate code that our 'coalition' could write or use. All you would need to do in the short term is set up CDJ with a "background MP3" field. It would also be nice to have a CDJ device command to insert a MP3 file name into this field through SlinkX, so we could insert MP3 names without having to access the library database directly. I/we could write code to automatically generate MP3's based on sound card input and SlinkX events, and then add entries to the library; or, use ID3 tag of the MP3's already on disk, to generate searches of the CDJ library to find the corresponding CDJ ID, and then insert the MP3 file name to the appropriate CDJ library entry. Over the fullness of time, you would have to rewrite your playback function to play the MP3 if the CD is missing; however, you wouldn't have to do the rest of the stuff. What do you say? Tom. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colby Boles" To: "Thomas W. Humphrey" ; "Dylan Ginsburg" ; Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Automated ripping and MP3 encoding of entire jukebox > With the right soundcard (e.g. the RME Digi96) it is possible to get the > timcode information from the digital stream and be able to make a precise > extraction of the track. > > The cool thing to do (i don't have time to do it - sorry) would be to rip > mp3's in the background for everything that is played in CDJ and have a > hidden field for every CD track which can point to a mirrored mp3 file. This > way you make mp3s of all the songs you actually listen to without any effort > or any extra time spent. Then CDJ could play either the real CD or the mp3 > depending on the queuing scenario, preferring the CD if it is available for > better sound quality. > > Colby > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Thomas W. Humphrey > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:10 AM > > To: Dylan Ginsburg; slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Automated ripping and MP3 encoding of entire > > jukebox > > > > > > I have done some experimentation and concluded it is difficult to > > automatically get the best possible MP3's from even a digital input sound > > card receiving digital from a CD player. There are several > > reasons for this > > (1) the sound quality is not perfect since there are imperfections in the > > digital stream, which will be recorded forever; (2) it is very > > difficult to > > identify the exact start and end of tracks so as to make an MP3 > > with no dead > > space at the beginning and end. On the other hand, there are several > > commercial programs that process the CD through a CD-ROM drive and don't > > suffer these drawbacks. For example, Exact Audio Copy is a program that > > will ensure a perfect copy of a CD by reading every track at > > least twice to > > make sure the samples have been read correct, and it will detect when the > > time counter reaches zero so you can start the MP3 at the exact > > beginning of > > the track. > > > > I see nothing lost in having to pass the CD's one by one through > > the CD-ROM > > drive since, after you have MP3's for every song and have the MP3's logged > > into the CDJ library, there is really no point in having the changer any > > more. As I see it, after all of the CD's are in MP3 format, I > > would remove > > all of the CD's from the changer and put them back in their > > boxes, and sell > > off the changer. If you buy into this theory, then you will be removing > > every one of the CD's from the changer anyway, so you might as well pass > > them through the CD-ROM player as part of this process. > > > > What I think is needed, therefore, is a program to scan a > > directory full of > > MP3's, and put those not already in the CDJ library into the > > library, via an > > automated process. Presumably, every CD is already in the CDJ library, in > > many cases with ratings, notes, lyrics, images, etc. So all that would be > > needed to change over the MP3's would be a C++ program that would > > match ID3 > > information from the MP3 to the entries in the library and then change the > > CD library entry into an entry for the MP3 with all of the information > > previously collected for the CD. After moving, say, 10 discs out of the > > changer, through the CD-ROM drive, and then into its box, you > > would then run > > the C++ program to add the created MP3's to the library. > > > > I have a list of contacts that I have assembled of people > > interested in this > > sort of thing. I will try to assemble it and post it to the > > slinkelist and > > to each member. > > > > Tom Humphrey > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > From AndyStein@aol.com Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:01:04 EDT Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:01:04 EDT From: AndyStein@aol.com AndyStein@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] 9/26 Version's Playlist Problems When I try to play a song from the playlist when the playlist has only one song, CDJ will play about a second and then will stop the track. The same happens on each track when two tracks appear on the tracklist. Andrew From LLaurel@BodekandRhodes.com Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:14:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:14:45 -0400 From: Larry Laurel LLaurel@BodekandRhodes.com Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version Last night I downloaded and installed the 9/26/00 build of CDJ. This all went off without a hitch, but when I select random play (this is called "shuffle" on the toolbar and "random" on the menu bar) to populate the playlist I get songs from a single CD only. Clearing the playlist repopulates it in the same way from a different (probably randomly selected) CD. Colby, is there a new option in CDJ to control this behavior, or is this an intentional change, or do I hear you mumbling OOPS :-) It would also be nice if random play could use the built-in shuffle mode in the changer. It is MUCH more random than that provided by CDJ (in earlier versions). TIA, Larry From michael@laserle.fi Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:24:57 +0300 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:24:57 +0300 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ request A) Colby, great idea on "mp3_file_4_cd_track" field for CD tracks, you said that you do not have time to develop the mp3 ripping BUT I'dd love to see you implement this feature for users to manually add (path&filename) to mp3 file for that CD and put into settings option "Prefer cd " and "Prefer mp3" radio button to tell which one try to play first.=20 Reason :=20 1.1. I use CDJ. (period) =3D my whole music collection in now in CDJ (I ripper ALL my 300 vinyls to mp3 and scanned the covers *).=20 1.2. When I travel I just pick up my laptop containing all those mp3's & cdj database & covers and CDJ. And ALWAYS when I'm playing following happens "ow, I really liked to hear that song but it's on CD, damn" =20 (Can you imagine the pain of scanning LP cover on A4, paraller port scanner, at 400-600 DPI to get desent image on that cheap piece of #=A4#=A4"&%& scanner.) =3D play mp3 when failed to play CD.=20 1.3. (prefer mp3) When I making playlist for club or party I hate to wait 10-20 second for player to load the disk I'm going to listen for 5-10 seconds =3D "Prefer mp3" play mp3 even the cd is awailable=20 (I have the ORIGINALs, but I'n not going to carry 200$ collector LP with me when I know that next morning I'm not going to remember my name let alone where I left my records ;)) =20 B)=20 While you are Tampering with DB could you put "sort_order" field to DB and to options "Default sort field " selection box =3D to tell by which field library is sorted when it is loaded into CDJ. Reason :=20 It would solve the annoying sort problem so that EVERYONE would be happy ('cept maybe Colby, for all the extra work ;-) ) --=20 --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Michael Holopainen | Valuraudantie 25 | Tel: +358-(0)9-35093825 | | | 00700 Helsinki | Fax : +358-(0)9-35093850 | | Laserle Oy | Finland | email: michael@laserle.fi| -------------------------------------------------------------------- From cboles@nirvis.com Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:45:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:45:29 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version oops. it actually works exactly as I designed it to, it's just that it wasn't a good design criteria. It tries to randomly select things which (in order of priority) 1. aren't already in the playlist 2. aren't from the same player 3. have a short queue time when you have only one player, criteria #2 will always fail, and so it goes to #3, which can only be satisfied by picking a track from the same disc as the previous track. I'll see what I can do. Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Larry Laurel > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:15 AM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > Last night I downloaded and installed the 9/26/00 build of CDJ. > This all went off without a hitch, but when I select random play (this is > called "shuffle" on the toolbar and "random" on the menu bar) to populate > the playlist I get songs from a single CD only. Clearing the playlist > repopulates it in the same way from a different (probably > randomly selected) > CD. > Colby, is there a new option in CDJ to control this behavior, or is > this an intentional change, or do I hear you mumbling OOPS :-) It would > also be nice if random play could use the built-in shuffle mode in the > changer. It is MUCH more random than that provided by CDJ (in earlier > versions). > > TIA, > Larry > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From paul.willmott@omsl.bm Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:04:49 -0300 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:04:49 -0300 From: paul.willmott@omsl.bm paul.willmott@omsl.bm Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version Colby, Could you add an option screen for the random play critrea so that the user can choose what is more important. I for one would perfer total random play over fast queue time, and would like a play track if its least played track in database. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Colby Boles [mailto:cboles@nirvis.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 12:45 PM To: Larry Laurel; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version oops. it actually works exactly as I designed it to, it's just that it wasn't a good design criteria. It tries to randomly select things which (in order of priority) 1. aren't already in the playlist 2. aren't from the same player 3. have a short queue time when you have only one player, criteria #2 will always fail, and so it goes to #3, which can only be satisfied by picking a track from the same disc as the previous track. I'll see what I can do. Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Larry Laurel > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:15 AM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > Last night I downloaded and installed the 9/26/00 build of CDJ. > This all went off without a hitch, but when I select random play (this is > called "shuffle" on the toolbar and "random" on the menu bar) to populate > the playlist I get songs from a single CD only. Clearing the playlist > repopulates it in the same way from a different (probably > randomly selected) > CD. > Colby, is there a new option in CDJ to control this behavior, or is > this an intentional change, or do I hear you mumbling OOPS :-) It would > also be nice if random play could use the built-in shuffle mode in the > changer. It is MUCH more random than that provided by CDJ (in earlier > versions). > > TIA, > Larry > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:05:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:05:01 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version What about adding a 1a) hasn't already been played? Make it more of a shuffle than a random. --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Colby Boles > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:45 AM > To: Larry Laurel; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > oops. it actually works exactly as I designed it to, it's just that it > wasn't a good design criteria. It tries to randomly select things > which (in > order of priority) > > 1. aren't already in the playlist > 2. aren't from the same player > 3. have a short queue time > > when you have only one player, criteria #2 will always fail, and > so it goes > to #3, which can only be satisfied by picking a track from the > same disc as > the previous track. I'll see what I can do. > > Colby > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Larry Laurel > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:15 AM > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > Last night I downloaded and installed the 9/26/00 build of CDJ. > > This all went off without a hitch, but when I select random > play (this is > > called "shuffle" on the toolbar and "random" on the menu bar) > to populate > > the playlist I get songs from a single CD only. Clearing the playlist > > repopulates it in the same way from a different (probably > > randomly selected) > > CD. > > Colby, is there a new option in CDJ to control this behavior, or is > > this an intentional change, or do I hear you mumbling OOPS :-) It would > > also be nice if random play could use the built-in shuffle mode in the > > changer. It is MUCH more random than that provided by CDJ (in earlier > > versions). > > > > TIA, > > Larry > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From pfaffman@relaxpc.com Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:30:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:30:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version I use a search which matches only songs which haven't been played for a certain length of time (CDs added more recently are allowed to replay more often), which I think solves the problem that you're talking about & continues to work after you've played all the songs. You can already get exactly the effect you're talking about if you search on the number of times played field. Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote: > What about adding a 1a) hasn't already been played? Make it more of a > shuffle than a random. > > --Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Colby Boles > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:45 AM > > To: Larry Laurel; slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > oops. it actually works exactly as I designed it to, it's just that it > > wasn't a good design criteria. It tries to randomly select things > > which (in > > order of priority) > > > > 1. aren't already in the playlist > > 2. aren't from the same player > > 3. have a short queue time > > > > when you have only one player, criteria #2 will always fail, and > > so it goes > > to #3, which can only be satisfied by picking a track from the > > same disc as > > the previous track. I'll see what I can do. > > > > Colby > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > Behalf Of Larry Laurel > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:15 AM > > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > Last night I downloaded and installed the 9/26/00 build of CDJ. > > > This all went off without a hitch, but when I select random > > play (this is > > > called "shuffle" on the toolbar and "random" on the menu bar) > > to populate > > > the playlist I get songs from a single CD only. Clearing the playlist > > > repopulates it in the same way from a different (probably > > > randomly selected) > > > CD. > > > Colby, is there a new option in CDJ to control this behavior, or is > > > this an intentional change, or do I hear you mumbling OOPS :-) It would > > > also be nice if random play could use the built-in shuffle mode in the > > > changer. It is MUCH more random than that provided by CDJ (in earlier > > > versions). > > > > > > TIA, > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:22:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:22:56 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version That's what I do too. What I object to is it pulling the same track out of the search list more than once in a given session. What I'd really like to see is the track get removed from the search list once it's added to the playlist (or at least when it's played). > -----Original Message----- > From: Jay Pfaffman [mailto:pfaffman@relaxpc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:31 PM > To: Mike Kropp > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > I use a search which matches only songs which haven't been played for a > certain length of time (CDs added more recently are allowed to replay more > often), which I think solves the problem that you're talking about & > continues to work after you've played all the songs. You can already get > exactly the effect you're talking about if you search on the number of > times played field. > > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote: > > > What about adding a 1a) hasn't already been played? Make it more of a > > shuffle than a random. > > > > --Mike > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > Behalf Of Colby Boles > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:45 AM > > > To: Larry Laurel; slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > oops. it actually works exactly as I designed it to, it's just that it > > > wasn't a good design criteria. It tries to randomly select things > > > which (in > > > order of priority) > > > > > > 1. aren't already in the playlist > > > 2. aren't from the same player > > > 3. have a short queue time > > > > > > when you have only one player, criteria #2 will always fail, and > > > so it goes > > > to #3, which can only be satisfied by picking a track from the > > > same disc as > > > the previous track. I'll see what I can do. > > > > > > Colby > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > Behalf Of Larry Laurel > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:15 AM > > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > Last night I downloaded and installed the 9/26/00 build of CDJ. > > > This all went off without a hitch, but when I select random > > play (this is > > > called "shuffle" on the toolbar and "random" on the menu bar) > > to populate > > > the playlist I get songs from a single CD only. Clearing the playlist > > > repopulates it in the same way from a different (probably > > > randomly selected) > > > CD. > > > Colby, is there a new option in CDJ to control this behavior, or is > > > this an intentional change, or do I hear you mumbling OOPS :-) It would > > > also be nice if random play could use the built-in shuffle mode in the > > > changer. It is MUCH more random than that provided by CDJ (in earlier > > > versions). > > > > > > TIA, > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From pfaffman@relaxpc.com Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:28:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:28:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version OK, I'll try again. I think that the latest CDJ (from a day or two ago) knows not to add items which are in the play list. I've upped the number of already-played songs in the playlist to 1000 (thinking again, 100 is probably enough), so unless I listen on random for a very long time I won't get dupes anymore. Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote: > That's what I do too. What I object to is it pulling the same track out of > the search list more than once in a given session. What I'd really like to > see is the track get removed from the search list once it's added to the > playlist (or at least when it's played). > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jay Pfaffman [mailto:pfaffman@relaxpc.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:31 PM > > To: Mike Kropp > > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > I use a search which matches only songs which haven't been played for a > > certain length of time (CDs added more recently are allowed to replay more > > often), which I think solves the problem that you're talking about & > > continues to work after you've played all the songs. You can already get > > exactly the effect you're talking about if you search on the number of > > times played field. > > > > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote: > > > > > What about adding a 1a) hasn't already been played? Make it more of a > > > shuffle than a random. > > > > > > --Mike > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > > Behalf Of Colby Boles > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:45 AM > > > > To: Larry Laurel; slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > oops. it actually works exactly as I designed it to, it's just that it > > > > wasn't a good design criteria. It tries to randomly select things > > > > which (in > > > > order of priority) > > > > > > > > 1. aren't already in the playlist > > > > 2. aren't from the same player > > > > 3. have a short queue time > > > > > > > > when you have only one player, criteria #2 will always fail, and > > > > so it goes > > > > to #3, which can only be satisfied by picking a track from the > > > > same disc as > > > > the previous track. I'll see what I can do. > > > > > > > > Colby > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > > Behalf Of Larry Laurel > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:15 AM > > > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night I downloaded and installed the 9/26/00 build of CDJ. > > > > This all went off without a hitch, but when I select random > > > play (this is > > > > called "shuffle" on the toolbar and "random" on the menu bar) > > > to populate > > > > the playlist I get songs from a single CD only. Clearing the playlist > > > > repopulates it in the same way from a different (probably > > > > randomly selected) > > > > CD. > > > > Colby, is there a new option in CDJ to control this behavior, or is > > > > this an intentional change, or do I hear you mumbling OOPS :-) It > would > > > > also be nice if random play could use the built-in shuffle mode in the > > > > changer. It is MUCH more random than that provided by CDJ (in earlier > > > > versions). > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:30:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:30:17 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version I don't keep that many in the playlist. Just 10 previous and five beyond. I suppose I could up it but that's not really the point. I had a five disc Sony player. I could put five discs in it, say shuffle all discs, it would play tracks randomly from the discs and then stop. Each track got played exactly once. What I'd like is for CDJ to take my search list, randomly go through it and play tracks (or discs) without repeating any until it has played them all. Generally, I don't get through them all but sometimes I do depending on the search. If I have a small search list, I'd still like to hear everything once before repeating. Perhaps a piece of data (not in the database) associated with each item in the search list for the pass. Start out at zero, each time a track is played, increment the value. When selecting a new track, look at that value and don't select it if it is the same as the current pass. Alternatively, refresh the search list from the search criteria periodically. This would move out old, already played entries, and bring new ones in that match the criteria (assuming the dates go by actual time rather than just the day - i.e., 9/22/00 2:55 PM is more than a week before 9/29/00 3:00 PM but 9/22/00 3:05 PM is not). I shouldn't have to artificially adjust my playlist random play settings to accomplish this. --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Jay Pfaffman > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:29 PM > To: Mike Kropp > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > OK, I'll try again. I think that the latest CDJ (from a day or two ago) > knows not to add items which are in the play list. I've upped the number > of already-played songs in the playlist to 1000 (thinking again, 100 is > probably enough), so unless I listen on random for a very long time I > won't get dupes anymore. > > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote: > > > That's what I do too. What I object to is it pulling the same > track out of > > the search list more than once in a given session. What I'd > really like to > > see is the track get removed from the search list once it's added to the > > playlist (or at least when it's played). > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jay Pfaffman [mailto:pfaffman@relaxpc.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:31 PM > > > To: Mike Kropp > > > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > I use a search which matches only songs which haven't been > played for a > > > certain length of time (CDs added more recently are allowed > to replay more > > > often), which I think solves the problem that you're talking about & > > > continues to work after you've played all the songs. You can > already get > > > exactly the effect you're talking about if you search on the number of > > > times played field. > > > > > > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > > > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > > > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote: > > > > > > > What about adding a 1a) hasn't already been played? Make > it more of a > > > > shuffle than a random. > > > > > > > > --Mike > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > > > Behalf Of Colby Boles > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:45 AM > > > > > To: Larry Laurel; slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oops. it actually works exactly as I designed it to, it's > just that it > > > > > wasn't a good design criteria. It tries to randomly select things > > > > > which (in > > > > > order of priority) > > > > > > > > > > 1. aren't already in the playlist > > > > > 2. aren't from the same player > > > > > 3. have a short queue time > > > > > > > > > > when you have only one player, criteria #2 will always fail, and > > > > > so it goes > > > > > to #3, which can only be satisfied by picking a track from the > > > > > same disc as > > > > > the previous track. I'll see what I can do. > > > > > > > > > > Colby > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > > > Behalf Of Larry Laurel > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:15 AM > > > > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night I downloaded and installed the 9/26/00 > build of CDJ. > > > > > This all went off without a hitch, but when I select random > > > > play (this is > > > > > called "shuffle" on the toolbar and "random" on the menu bar) > > > > to populate > > > > > the playlist I get songs from a single CD only. Clearing > the playlist > > > > > repopulates it in the same way from a different (probably > > > > > randomly selected) > > > > > CD. > > > > > Colby, is there a new option in CDJ to control this > behavior, or is > > > > > this an intentional change, or do I hear you mumbling OOPS :-) It > > would > > > > > also be nice if random play could use the built-in > shuffle mode in the > > > > > changer. It is MUCH more random than that provided by > CDJ (in earlier > > > > > versions). > > > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From cboles@nirvis.com Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:43:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:43:42 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version I've thought about all of these things before. The problem comes in defining WHEN random play starts and stops. For example, you run random play for a while and then stop it. Then you start random play again. Is it allowed to replay tracks? How long after something has been played must you wait before playing it again? Your choice might be different if you had a long set of search results or a short one... Once you start putting too many restrictions on what can be played, things start looking very non-random, particularly if you don't have a large number of results to start with. I could add something which refreshed the search every time a new random item was added to the playlist so that recently played items would be removed from the search... Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Mike Kropp > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 12:30 PM > To: Jay Pfaffman > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > I don't keep that many in the playlist. Just 10 previous and five beyond. > I suppose I could up it but that's not really the point. > > I had a five disc Sony player. I could put five discs in it, say shuffle > all discs, it would play tracks randomly from the discs and then > stop. Each > track got played exactly once. > > What I'd like is for CDJ to take my search list, randomly go > through it and > play tracks (or discs) without repeating any until it has played them all. > Generally, I don't get through them all but sometimes I do > depending on the > search. If I have a small search list, I'd still like to hear everything > once before repeating. Perhaps a piece of data (not in the database) > associated with each item in the search list for the pass. Start out at > zero, each time a track is played, increment the value. When selecting a > new track, look at that value and don't select it if it is the same as the > current pass. > > Alternatively, refresh the search list from the search criteria > periodically. This would move out old, already played entries, and bring > new ones in that match the criteria (assuming the dates go by actual time > rather than just the day - i.e., 9/22/00 2:55 PM is more than a > week before > 9/29/00 3:00 PM but 9/22/00 3:05 PM is not). > > I shouldn't have to artificially adjust my playlist random play > settings to > accomplish this. > > --Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Jay Pfaffman > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:29 PM > > To: Mike Kropp > > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > OK, I'll try again. I think that the latest CDJ (from a day or two ago) > > knows not to add items which are in the play list. I've upped > the number > > of already-played songs in the playlist to 1000 (thinking again, 100 is > > probably enough), so unless I listen on random for a very long time I > > won't get dupes anymore. > > > > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote: > > > > > That's what I do too. What I object to is it pulling the same > > track out of > > > the search list more than once in a given session. What I'd > > really like to > > > see is the track get removed from the search list once it's > added to the > > > playlist (or at least when it's played). > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jay Pfaffman [mailto:pfaffman@relaxpc.com] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:31 PM > > > > To: Mike Kropp > > > > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > > > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > I use a search which matches only songs which haven't been > > played for a > > > > certain length of time (CDs added more recently are allowed > > to replay more > > > > often), which I think solves the problem that you're talking about & > > > > continues to work after you've played all the songs. You can > > already get > > > > exactly the effect you're talking about if you search on > the number of > > > > times played field. > > > > > > > > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > > > > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > > > > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote: > > > > > > > > > What about adding a 1a) hasn't already been played? Make > > it more of a > > > > > shuffle than a random. > > > > > > > > > > --Mike > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > > > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > > > > Behalf Of Colby Boles > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:45 AM > > > > > > To: Larry Laurel; slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oops. it actually works exactly as I designed it to, it's > > just that it > > > > > > wasn't a good design criteria. It tries to randomly > select things > > > > > > which (in > > > > > > order of priority) > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. aren't already in the playlist > > > > > > 2. aren't from the same player > > > > > > 3. have a short queue time > > > > > > > > > > > > when you have only one player, criteria #2 will always fail, and > > > > > > so it goes > > > > > > to #3, which can only be satisfied by picking a track from the > > > > > > same disc as > > > > > > the previous track. I'll see what I can do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Colby > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > > > > Behalf Of Larry Laurel > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:15 AM > > > > > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > > Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night I downloaded and installed the 9/26/00 > > build of CDJ. > > > > > > This all went off without a hitch, but when I select random > > > > > play (this is > > > > > > called "shuffle" on the toolbar and "random" on the menu bar) > > > > > to populate > > > > > > the playlist I get songs from a single CD only. Clearing > > the playlist > > > > > > repopulates it in the same way from a different (probably > > > > > > randomly selected) > > > > > > CD. > > > > > > Colby, is there a new option in CDJ to control this > > behavior, or is > > > > > > this an intentional change, or do I hear you mumbling > OOPS :-) It > > > would > > > > > > also be nice if random play could use the built-in > > shuffle mode in the > > > > > > changer. It is MUCH more random than that provided by > > CDJ (in earlier > > > > > > versions). > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From paul.willmott@omsl.bm Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:52:26 -0300 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:52:26 -0300 From: paul.willmott@omsl.bm paul.willmott@omsl.bm Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version Colby et al, Isn't it a function of the total running time of the discs in the jukebox (which can be calculated from the database)? I have 3 jukeboxes and about 700 cds in them, I find that the same tracks come up again and again and again. that should not be the case, ... which is why I suggest a property sheet on random play choices. In my case I'd like to hear all tracks eventually, i.e. keep a play count against each track and randomly play the least played (subject to DON'T PLAY THIS TRACK), .. I'm sure we could quickly come up with some more options as well. I think that it is clear that one size doesn't fit all here, ... so let the user choose what they prefer. Cheers paul Bermuda -----Original Message----- From: Colby Boles To: Mike Kropp; Jay Pfaffman Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List Sent: 9/27/00 4:43 PM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version I've thought about all of these things before. The problem comes in defining WHEN random play starts and stops. For example, you run random play for a while and then stop it. Then you start random play again. Is it allowed to replay tracks? How long after something has been played must you wait before playing it again? Your choice might be different if you had a long set of search results or a short one... Once you start putting too many restrictions on what can be played, things start looking very non-random, particularly if you don't have a large number of results to start with. I could add something which refreshed the search every time a new random item was added to the playlist so that recently played items would be removed from the search... Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Mike Kropp > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 12:30 PM > To: Jay Pfaffman > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > I don't keep that many in the playlist. Just 10 previous and five beyond. > I suppose I could up it but that's not really the point. > > I had a five disc Sony player. I could put five discs in it, say shuffle > all discs, it would play tracks randomly from the discs and then > stop. Each > track got played exactly once. > > What I'd like is for CDJ to take my search list, randomly go > through it and > play tracks (or discs) without repeating any until it has played them all. > Generally, I don't get through them all but sometimes I do > depending on the > search. If I have a small search list, I'd still like to hear everything > once before repeating. Perhaps a piece of data (not in the database) > associated with each item in the search list for the pass. Start out at > zero, each time a track is played, increment the value. When selecting a > new track, look at that value and don't select it if it is the same as the > current pass. > > Alternatively, refresh the search list from the search criteria > periodically. This would move out old, already played entries, and bring > new ones in that match the criteria (assuming the dates go by actual time > rather than just the day - i.e., 9/22/00 2:55 PM is more than a > week before > 9/29/00 3:00 PM but 9/22/00 3:05 PM is not). > > I shouldn't have to artificially adjust my playlist random play > settings to > accomplish this. > > --Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Jay Pfaffman > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:29 PM > > To: Mike Kropp > > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > OK, I'll try again. I think that the latest CDJ (from a day or two ago) > > knows not to add items which are in the play list. I've upped > the number > > of already-played songs in the playlist to 1000 (thinking again, 100 is > > probably enough), so unless I listen on random for a very long time I > > won't get dupes anymore. > > > > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote: > > > > > That's what I do too. What I object to is it pulling the same > > track out of > > > the search list more than once in a given session. What I'd > > really like to > > > see is the track get removed from the search list once it's > added to the > > > playlist (or at least when it's played). > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jay Pfaffman [mailto:pfaffman@relaxpc.com] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:31 PM > > > > To: Mike Kropp > > > > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > > > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > I use a search which matches only songs which haven't been > > played for a > > > > certain length of time (CDs added more recently are allowed > > to replay more > > > > often), which I think solves the problem that you're talking about & > > > > continues to work after you've played all the songs. You can > > already get > > > > exactly the effect you're talking about if you search on > the number of > > > > times played field. > > > > > > > > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > > > > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > > > > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote: > > > > > > > > > What about adding a 1a) hasn't already been played? Make > > it more of a > > > > > shuffle than a random. > > > > > > > > > > --Mike > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > > > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > > > > Behalf Of Colby Boles > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:45 AM > > > > > > To: Larry Laurel; slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oops. it actually works exactly as I designed it to, it's > > just that it > > > > > > wasn't a good design criteria. It tries to randomly > select things > > > > > > which (in > > > > > > order of priority) > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. aren't already in the playlist > > > > > > 2. aren't from the same player > > > > > > 3. have a short queue time > > > > > > > > > > > > when you have only one player, criteria #2 will always fail, and > > > > > > so it goes > > > > > > to #3, which can only be satisfied by picking a track from the > > > > > > same disc as > > > > > > the previous track. I'll see what I can do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Colby > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > > > > Behalf Of Larry Laurel > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:15 AM > > > > > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > > Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night I downloaded and installed the 9/26/00 > > build of CDJ. > > > > > > This all went off without a hitch, but when I select random > > > > > play (this is > > > > > > called "shuffle" on the toolbar and "random" on the menu bar) > > > > > to populate > > > > > > the playlist I get songs from a single CD only. Clearing > > the playlist > > > > > > repopulates it in the same way from a different (probably > > > > > > randomly selected) > > > > > > CD. > > > > > > Colby, is there a new option in CDJ to control this > > behavior, or is > > > > > > this an intentional change, or do I hear you mumbling > OOPS :-) It > > > would > > > > > > also be nice if random play could use the built-in > > shuffle mode in the > > > > > > changer. It is MUCH more random than that provided by > > CDJ (in earlier > > > > > > versions). > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From akc2@bellatlantic.net Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:36:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:36:27 -0400 From: A.K. Chumbley akc2@bellatlantic.net Subject: [slinkelist] Audio file single track deletion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C028E4.23336840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A general question about audio file (MP3 albums) in CDJ.... Was it ever allowed to delete individual tracks from an album file? = I've created several MP3 albums and placed them into CDJ. It ordered = the tracks in the album differently than I had intended (cut several = files at once into the album). I can drag and drop the files to place = them back in the correct order, but when I try to delete individual = tracks from the album...it always deletes the entire album. Is there some way around this or is it an all or none situation. It's a = small problem, but annoying if you just cut one wrong track into the = album. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C028E4.23336840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A general question about audio = file (MP3=20 albums) in CDJ....
 
Was it ever allowed to delete = individual tracks=20 from an album file?  I've = created several=20 MP3 albums and placed them into CDJ.  It ordered the tracks in = the=20 album differently than I had intended (cut several files at once = into the=20 album).  I can drag and drop the files to place them back in the = correct=20 order, but when I try to delete individual tracks from the = album...it=20 always deletes the entire album.
 
Is there some way around this or is it = an all or=20 none situation.  It's a small problem, but annoying if you = just cut=20 one wrong track into the album.
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C028E4.23336840-- From gtang@gtcons.com Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:50:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:50:49 -0700 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] Audio file single track deletion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C028CC.FFF10980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To delete individual tracks, highlight the track and press the "delete" key on your keyboard. You can also rearrange tracks by dragging the track to the desired location. -George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of A.K. Chumbley Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 9:36 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Audio file single track deletion A general question about audio file (MP3 albums) in CDJ.... Was it ever allowed to delete individual tracks from an album file? I've created several MP3 albums and placed them into CDJ. It ordered the tracks in the album differently than I had intended (cut several files at once into the album). I can drag and drop the files to place them back in the correct order, but when I try to delete individual tracks from the album...it always deletes the entire album. Is there some way around this or is it an all or none situation. It's a small problem, but annoying if you just cut one wrong track into the album. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C028CC.FFF10980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To=20 delete individual tracks, highlight the track and press the "delete" key = on your=20 keyboard.
 
You=20 can also rearrange tracks by dragging the track to the desired=20 location.
 
-George
-----Original Message-----
From: = slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com=20 [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of A.K.=20 Chumbley
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 9:36 = PM
To:=20 slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Audio file = single track=20 deletion

A general question about audio = file (MP3=20 albums) in CDJ....
 
Was it ever allowed to delete = individual tracks=20 from an album file?  I've = created several=20 MP3 albums and placed them into CDJ.  It ordered the tracks = in the=20 album differently than I had intended (cut several files at once = into the=20 album).  I can drag and drop the files to place them back in the = correct=20 order, but when I try to delete individual tracks from the = album...it=20 always deletes the entire album.
 
Is there some way around this or is = it an all or=20 none situation.  It's a small problem, but annoying if you = just cut=20 one wrong track into the = album.
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C028CC.FFF10980-- From michael@laserle.fi Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:33:57 +0300 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:33:57 +0300 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] Audio file single track deletion ... "You can also rearrange tracks by dragging the track to the desired location." NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo, Since what version this feature has been added ? (f**k) * 10 , now I have this terrible fear that one "guest user" has accidently messed up the track order in some albums, I really hope this "rearranging" has come AFTER Colby implemented the wonderful "Disable editing of fileds" option. -michael (A) -- --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- From saleh.igal@archongroup.com Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:13:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:13:12 -0500 From: Igal, Saleh saleh.igal@archongroup.com Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version I get exactly this result, but have never used the random play feature. I just do a search on what I want to listen to, drag it all to the playlist pane, and hit shuffle, optimize, play. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Mike Kropp Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:30 pm To: Jay Pfaffman Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version I don't keep that many in the playlist. Just 10 previous and five beyond. I suppose I could up it but that's not really the point. I had a five disc Sony player. I could put five discs in it, say shuffle all discs, it would play tracks randomly from the discs and then stop. Each track got played exactly once. What I'd like is for CDJ to take my search list, randomly go through it and play tracks (or discs) without repeating any until it has played them all. Generally, I don't get through them all but sometimes I do depending on the search. If I have a small search list, I'd still like to hear everything once before repeating. Perhaps a piece of data (not in the database) associated with each item in the search list for the pass. Start out at zero, each time a track is played, increment the value. When selecting a new track, look at that value and don't select it if it is the same as the current pass. Alternatively, refresh the search list from the search criteria periodically. This would move out old, already played entries, and bring new ones in that match the criteria (assuming the dates go by actual time rather than just the day - i.e., 9/22/00 2:55 PM is more than a week before 9/29/00 3:00 PM but 9/22/00 3:05 PM is not). I shouldn't have to artificially adjust my playlist random play settings to accomplish this. --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Jay Pfaffman > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:29 PM > To: Mike Kropp > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > OK, I'll try again. I think that the latest CDJ (from a day or two ago) > knows not to add items which are in the play list. I've upped the number > of already-played songs in the playlist to 1000 (thinking again, 100 is > probably enough), so unless I listen on random for a very long time I > won't get dupes anymore. > > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote: > > > That's what I do too. What I object to is it pulling the same > track out of > > the search list more than once in a given session. What I'd > really like to > > see is the track get removed from the search list once it's added to the > > playlist (or at least when it's played). > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jay Pfaffman [mailto:pfaffman@relaxpc.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:31 PM > > > To: Mike Kropp > > > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > I use a search which matches only songs which haven't been > played for a > > > certain length of time (CDs added more recently are allowed > to replay more > > > often), which I think solves the problem that you're talking about & > > > continues to work after you've played all the songs. You can > already get > > > exactly the effect you're talking about if you search on the number of > > > times played field. > > > > > > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > > > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > > > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote: > > > > > > > What about adding a 1a) hasn't already been played? Make > it more of a > > > > shuffle than a random. > > > > > > > > --Mike > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > > > Behalf Of Colby Boles > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:45 AM > > > > > To: Larry Laurel; slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oops. it actually works exactly as I designed it to, it's > just that it > > > > > wasn't a good design criteria. It tries to randomly select things > > > > > which (in > > > > > order of priority) > > > > > > > > > > 1. aren't already in the playlist > > > > > 2. aren't from the same player > > > > > 3. have a short queue time > > > > > > > > > > when you have only one player, criteria #2 will always fail, and > > > > > so it goes > > > > > to #3, which can only be satisfied by picking a track from the > > > > > same disc as > > > > > the previous track. I'll see what I can do. > > > > > > > > > > Colby > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > > > Behalf Of Larry Laurel > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:15 AM > > > > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night I downloaded and installed the 9/26/00 > build of CDJ. > > > > > This all went off without a hitch, but when I select random > > > > play (this is > > > > > called "shuffle" on the toolbar and "random" on the menu bar) > > > > to populate > > > > > the playlist I get songs from a single CD only. Clearing > the playlist > > > > > repopulates it in the same way from a different (probably > > > > > randomly selected) > > > > > CD. > > > > > Colby, is there a new option in CDJ to control this > behavior, or is > > > > > this an intentional change, or do I hear you mumbling OOPS :-) It > > would > > > > > also be nice if random play could use the built-in > shuffle mode in the > > > > > changer. It is MUCH more random than that provided by > CDJ (in earlier > > > > > versions). > > > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From j.schaffer@snet.net Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:43:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:43:36 -0400 From: Jeff Schaffer j.schaffer@snet.net Subject: Fwd: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version [I sent this in reply to a note sent by Colby and omitted the distlist.] Colby, On the priorities, some comments, questions: 1. aren't already in the playlist (items can fall off the list) 2. aren't from the same player (as the last track in the playlist?) 3. have a short queue time (what's the definition of this?) Re-evaluating the search can be a problem with long lists on slow machines. I know, because I have a slow machine and over 5000 tracks in my normal play list, generated each session from a query. How about replacing #1 with not played in the last n hours (default 24, overridable in configuration options)? If none qualify, fall back to n/2 hours, then n/4, etc. Also, this is a little off-track, but I select where: (nt = 0) and (not kw = christmas) forcing cdj to pick songs not yet played. The nt value gets incremented very shortly after a track begins playing. The problem is that when I interrupt a track to stop playing or shut down, that track is marked as having played. I'd prefer if cdj incremented nt when it ends-the-track/starts-the-next-track in the play list. An option to select the nt increment policy (start or end) would be perfectly fine. I'd just prefer interrupted tracks to remain un-incremented. Jeff From akc2@bellatlantic.net Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:31:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:31:57 -0400 From: A.K. Chumbley akc2@bellatlantic.net Subject: [slinkelist] Audio file single track deletion Thanks for that guys. Guess it was a stupid mistake on my part, but then again that's how I learn. Using the mouse right-click deletes only the album, but the keyboard delete key does just the trick (sometimes I forget there is a keyboard even attached to this computer, but that's a whole 'nother story). Thanks again... AK From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:13:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:13:23 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version Can't drag everything to the playlist via the map file. --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Igal, Saleh > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 2:13 PM > To: Slink-e List > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > I get exactly this result, but have never used the random play feature. I > just do a search on what I want to listen to, drag it all to the playlist > pane, and hit shuffle, optimize, play. > > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Mike Kropp > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:30 pm > To: Jay Pfaffman > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > I don't keep that many in the playlist. Just 10 previous and five beyond. > I suppose I could up it but that's not really the point. > > I had a five disc Sony player. I could put five discs in it, say shuffle > all discs, it would play tracks randomly from the discs and then > stop. Each > track got played exactly once. > > What I'd like is for CDJ to take my search list, randomly go > through it and > play tracks (or discs) without repeating any until it has played them all. > Generally, I don't get through them all but sometimes I do > depending on the > search. If I have a small search list, I'd still like to hear everything > once before repeating. Perhaps a piece of data (not in the database) > associated with each item in the search list for the pass. Start out at > zero, each time a track is played, increment the value. When selecting a > new track, look at that value and don't select it if it is the same as the > current pass. > > Alternatively, refresh the search list from the search criteria > periodically. This would move out old, already played entries, and bring > new ones in that match the criteria (assuming the dates go by actual time > rather than just the day - i.e., 9/22/00 2:55 PM is more than a > week before > 9/29/00 3:00 PM but 9/22/00 3:05 PM is not). > > I shouldn't have to artificially adjust my playlist random play > settings to > accomplish this. > > --Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Jay Pfaffman > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:29 PM > > To: Mike Kropp > > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > OK, I'll try again. I think that the latest CDJ (from a day or two ago) > > knows not to add items which are in the play list. I've upped > the number > > of already-played songs in the playlist to 1000 (thinking again, 100 is > > probably enough), so unless I listen on random for a very long time I > > won't get dupes anymore. > > > > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote: > > > > > That's what I do too. What I object to is it pulling the same > > track out of > > > the search list more than once in a given session. What I'd > > really like to > > > see is the track get removed from the search list once it's > added to the > > > playlist (or at least when it's played). > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jay Pfaffman [mailto:pfaffman@relaxpc.com] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:31 PM > > > > To: Mike Kropp > > > > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List > > > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > I use a search which matches only songs which haven't been > > played for a > > > > certain length of time (CDs added more recently are allowed > > to replay more > > > > often), which I think solves the problem that you're talking about & > > > > continues to work after you've played all the songs. You can > > already get > > > > exactly the effect you're talking about if you search on > the number of > > > > times played field. > > > > > > > > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com > > > > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > > > > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote: > > > > > > > > > What about adding a 1a) hasn't already been played? Make > > it more of a > > > > > shuffle than a random. > > > > > > > > > > --Mike > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > > > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > > > > Behalf Of Colby Boles > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:45 AM > > > > > > To: Larry Laurel; slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oops. it actually works exactly as I designed it to, it's > > just that it > > > > > > wasn't a good design criteria. It tries to randomly > select things > > > > > > which (in > > > > > > order of priority) > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. aren't already in the playlist > > > > > > 2. aren't from the same player > > > > > > 3. have a short queue time > > > > > > > > > > > > when you have only one player, criteria #2 will always fail, and > > > > > > so it goes > > > > > > to #3, which can only be satisfied by picking a track from the > > > > > > same disc as > > > > > > the previous track. I'll see what I can do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Colby > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > > > > Behalf Of Larry Laurel > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:15 AM > > > > > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > > Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night I downloaded and installed the 9/26/00 > > build of CDJ. > > > > > > This all went off without a hitch, but when I select random > > > > > play (this is > > > > > > called "shuffle" on the toolbar and "random" on the menu bar) > > > > > to populate > > > > > > the playlist I get songs from a single CD only. Clearing > > the playlist > > > > > > repopulates it in the same way from a different (probably > > > > > > randomly selected) > > > > > > CD. > > > > > > Colby, is there a new option in CDJ to control this > > behavior, or is > > > > > > this an intentional change, or do I hear you mumbling > OOPS :-) It > > > would > > > > > > also be nice if random play could use the built-in > > shuffle mode in the > > > > > > changer. It is MUCH more random than that provided by > > CDJ (in earlier > > > > > > versions). > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From michael@laserle.fi Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:13:00 +0300 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:13:00 +0300 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: Fwd: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version I'm not Colby, but here is how I understood it : 1. random play = picks items from LIBRARY and creates RANDOM playlist on the fly 2. yes 3. alternate players so there is no silence while CDP-CX??? unload/search/load disks P.S. I haven't yet found time to try the newest CDJ version, but I look frward doing so over the weekend. Jeff Schaffer wrote: > > [I sent this in reply to a note sent by Colby and omitted the distlist.] > > Colby, > > On the priorities, some comments, questions: > > 1. aren't already in the playlist (items can fall off the list) > 2. aren't from the same player (as the last track in the playlist?) > 3. have a short queue time (what's the definition of this?) From vknight@primary.net Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:35:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:35:45 -0500 From: Vann M. Knight vknight@primary.net Subject: [slinkelist] stereolink Model 1200 - any experience with this produce? Slightly off topic: Has anyone had any experience with this device? http://www.stereolink.com/ If you believe their ad it sounds line a good way to go for high quality mp3 playback. Back on topic: What is the general concensus on how to automatically switch between cd jukebox and mp3 sources with cdj? thanks, Vann From j.schaffer@snet.net Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:25:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:25:42 -0400 From: Jeff Schaffer j.schaffer@snet.net Subject: Fwd: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version 1. That part I understood. If you perform a query, tracks are selected from the list of results from the query. My point was that a played track eventually falls off of the playlist. Does this make it eligible to be selected again during the same session? If so, the only guaranteed way would be to keep a list of all tracks played in the current session and never select anything already in the list. If that leaves nothing to select, clear the list and start over. Using 1 bit to record whether a track has been played, I'd allocate 4 bytes per slot (up to 32 tracks per disk, still have to handle exceptions for disks that have more than 32 tracks) so you could track the play history of over 2500 slots in just 10KB. Or just implement a hack to play nothing played in the last 24 hours. ;-) 2. If you show, say, two additional tracks after the currently playing track, I wanted to make sure that "aren't from the same player" doesn't refer to the track just played, but refers instead to the player of the last track queued ahead in the playlist. 3. If the track selected is already not from the player of the last track in the playlist, what does "have a short queue time" mean? From experience it doesn't mean the same disk in the same player already queued ahead of the current track. For example if p1d1t1 is playing, p2d1t1, p1d100t1, and p2d100t1 are queued, I'm curious how "short queue time" is evaluated. Jeff At 9:13 AM +0300 9/29/00, Michael Holopainen wrote: >I'm not Colby, but here is how I understood it : > >1. random play = picks items from LIBRARY and creates RANDOM playlist on >the fly >2. yes >3. alternate players so there is no silence while CDP-CX??? >unload/search/load disks > >P.S. I haven't yet found time to try the newest CDJ version, but I look >frward doing so over the weekend. > >Jeff Schaffer wrote: >> >> [I sent this in reply to a note sent by Colby and omitted the distlist.] >> >> Colby, >> >> On the priorities, some comments, questions: >> >> 1. aren't already in the playlist (items can fall off the list) >> 2. aren't from the same player (as the last track in the playlist?) >> 3. have a short queue time (what's the definition of this?) > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From simon@themasons.net Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:10:13 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:10:13 -0400 From: Simon Mason simon@themasons.net Subject: [slinkelist] stereolink Model 1200 - any experience with this produce? I took a quick look at the site and it seems to be a $199 way to hook your stereo to your PC. I don't see that it offers anything else. I run the audio from my sound card and use on of those Radio Shack noise reducers that they sell for cars. Admittedly I am running my audio through a whole house audio system, so I am not as concerned about the sound quality. Does it do something else that I am missing? A number of people have requested the ability for CDJ to work through a separate sound card so that system sounds could be separated from audio, will this do it? -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Vann M. Knight Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 4:36 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] stereolink Model 1200 - any experience with this produce? Slightly off topic: Has anyone had any experience with this device? http://www.stereolink.com/ If you believe their ad it sounds line a good way to go for high quality mp3 playback. Back on topic: What is the general concensus on how to automatically switch between cd jukebox and mp3 sources with cdj? thanks, Vann _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:21:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:21:50 -0400 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] Ripping MP3's using CDJ/Slink-e This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_010D_01C02864.5DDD51C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This mail is addressed to everyone that has recently expressed interest = or commented upon CD ripping to MP3's. I'll try to maintain a complete = list so if you want to be added to the list, send me a mail. If you = want off the list, send me a mail. I'll try to shadow all = correspondence I see on this topic to the list. 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