[slinkelist] Random play in newest version
Mike Kropp
mkropp@cathouse.mv.com
Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:13:23 -0400
Can't drag everything to the playlist via the map file.
--Mike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
> Behalf Of Igal, Saleh
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 2:13 PM
> To: Slink-e List
> Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version
>
>
> I get exactly this result, but have never used the random play feature. I
> just do a search on what I want to listen to, drag it all to the playlist
> pane, and hit shuffle, optimize, play.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
> Behalf Of Mike Kropp
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:30 pm
> To: Jay Pfaffman
> Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List
> Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version
>
>
> I don't keep that many in the playlist. Just 10 previous and five beyond.
> I suppose I could up it but that's not really the point.
>
> I had a five disc Sony player. I could put five discs in it, say shuffle
> all discs, it would play tracks randomly from the discs and then
> stop. Each
> track got played exactly once.
>
> What I'd like is for CDJ to take my search list, randomly go
> through it and
> play tracks (or discs) without repeating any until it has played them all.
> Generally, I don't get through them all but sometimes I do
> depending on the
> search. If I have a small search list, I'd still like to hear everything
> once before repeating. Perhaps a piece of data (not in the database)
> associated with each item in the search list for the pass. Start out at
> zero, each time a track is played, increment the value. When selecting a
> new track, look at that value and don't select it if it is the same as the
> current pass.
>
> Alternatively, refresh the search list from the search criteria
> periodically. This would move out old, already played entries, and bring
> new ones in that match the criteria (assuming the dates go by actual time
> rather than just the day - i.e., 9/22/00 2:55 PM is more than a
> week before
> 9/29/00 3:00 PM but 9/22/00 3:05 PM is not).
>
> I shouldn't have to artificially adjust my playlist random play
> settings to
> accomplish this.
>
> --Mike
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
> > Behalf Of Jay Pfaffman
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:29 PM
> > To: Mike Kropp
> > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List
> > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version
> >
> >
> > OK, I'll try again. I think that the latest CDJ (from a day or two ago)
> > knows not to add items which are in the play list. I've upped
> the number
> > of already-played songs in the playlist to 1000 (thinking again, 100 is
> > probably enough), so unless I listen on random for a very long time I
> > won't get dupes anymore.
> >
> > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com
> > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home)
> > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote:
> >
> > > That's what I do too. What I object to is it pulling the same
> > track out of
> > > the search list more than once in a given session. What I'd
> > really like to
> > > see is the track get removed from the search list once it's
> added to the
> > > playlist (or at least when it's played).
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jay Pfaffman [mailto:pfaffman@relaxpc.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:31 PM
> > > > To: Mike Kropp
> > > > Cc: Colby Boles; Slink-e List
> > > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I use a search which matches only songs which haven't been
> > played for a
> > > > certain length of time (CDs added more recently are allowed
> > to replay more
> > > > often), which I think solves the problem that you're talking about &
> > > > continues to work after you've played all the songs. You can
> > already get
> > > > exactly the effect you're talking about if you search on
> the number of
> > > > times played field.
> > > >
> > > > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com
> > > > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home)
> > > > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Mike Kropp wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What about adding a 1a) hasn't already been played? Make
> > it more of a
> > > > > shuffle than a random.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com
> > > > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
> > > > > > Behalf Of Colby Boles
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:45 AM
> > > > > > To: Larry Laurel; slinkelist@nirvis.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > oops. it actually works exactly as I designed it to, it's
> > just that it
> > > > > > wasn't a good design criteria. It tries to randomly
> select things
> > > > > > which (in
> > > > > > order of priority)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. aren't already in the playlist
> > > > > > 2. aren't from the same player
> > > > > > 3. have a short queue time
> > > > > >
> > > > > > when you have only one player, criteria #2 will always fail, and
> > > > > > so it goes
> > > > > > to #3, which can only be satisfied by picking a track from the
> > > > > > same disc as
> > > > > > the previous track. I'll see what I can do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Colby
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com
> > > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
> > > > > > Behalf Of Larry Laurel
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:15 AM
> > > > > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
> > > > > > Subject: [slinkelist] Random play in newest version
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Last night I downloaded and installed the 9/26/00
> > build of CDJ.
> > > > > > This all went off without a hitch, but when I select random
> > > > > play (this is
> > > > > > called "shuffle" on the toolbar and "random" on the menu bar)
> > > > > to populate
> > > > > > the playlist I get songs from a single CD only. Clearing
> > the playlist
> > > > > > repopulates it in the same way from a different (probably
> > > > > > randomly selected)
> > > > > > CD.
> > > > > > Colby, is there a new option in CDJ to control this
> > behavior, or is
> > > > > > this an intentional change, or do I hear you mumbling
> OOPS :-) It
> > > would
> > > > > > also be nice if random play could use the built-in
> > shuffle mode in the
> > > > > > changer. It is MUCH more random than that provided by
> > CDJ (in earlier
> > > > > > versions).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TIA,
> > > > > > Larry
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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